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Old 11-23-2003, 09:24 PM   #136
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And I don't know how much more clear I have to be.

MARK LEAKED IT!! I THINK IT'S SHITTY!!!

The first part is FACT. The second part is my OPINION! One that I am entitled to express!

Also, forgive me ... I wasn't aware there were rules as to what we were allowed to discuss or not discuss. I'll keep it in mind for next time.
Old 11-23-2003, 09:32 PM   #137
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Obviously you are incapable of rational debate. When you debate, i.e. express an opinion, you typically use facts, not speculation, to back up your opinions, or did you miss that in grammar school?

We have yet to hear any of this come from the band. It came from members of a message board who purport to relate what Mark supposedly told them at a meet and greet. That does not constitute fact. It constitutes hearsay, second-hand information.
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Old 11-23-2003, 09:35 PM   #138
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creedlvr,

your passion for stapp has made you blind (and a pain in the ass)!

Look at you! Take a breath, and realize/think about what you're posting!

Mark prepared the ground for what may be coming. What if Stapp is the one who chose to quit music for a while? Wouldn't you regret about the things you're saying about Mark? So, shut up until we get more news on what's happening.
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Old 11-23-2003, 09:40 PM   #139
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Geez, so much for a peaceful board.

But Marcos, I do agree.
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Old 11-23-2003, 09:41 PM   #140
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I think everyone just needs to be quiet, until more news comes out, then everything will make more sence.
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Old 11-23-2003, 09:43 PM   #141
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You are absolutely unbelieveable! You are so incredibly rude! You are the one who doesn't know how to have a rational debate. Right from the start you attacked me because you didn't agree with what I said.

And you just keep proving my point. ... you always think you're right. Do you think you're better than everyone here? Do you even listen to yourself? You think you're so high and mighty around here! Get over yourself!

No, I didn't miss anything in grammer school, thank you! (Another RUDE comment as expected ... Miss rationale!!)

I refuse to keep lowering myself to this. YOU WIN!!! I give up!
Old 11-23-2003, 09:47 PM   #142
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<!--QuoteBegin-Tremonti_Fed+11-23-2003 09:35 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Tremonti_Fed @ 11-23-2003 09:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> creedlvr,

your passion for stapp has made you blind (and a pain in the ass)!

Look at you! Take a breath, and realize/think about what you're posting!

Mark prepared the ground for what may be coming. What if Stapp is the one who chose to quit music for a while? Wouldn't you regret about the things you're saying about Mark? So, shut up until we get more news on what's happening. [/b][/quote]
I can't believe this! I am not blind. Once AGAIN ... I don't like the way Mark handled this whole matter. What is the matter with you people? What don't you get? If Stapp is the one who chose to quit music, I still will not regret what I said. He handled it poorly ... leaking to a fan on a message board. c'mon! Maybe you're the one who's blind ... judging by your screen name.

And don't tell me to shut up!
Old 11-23-2003, 09:49 PM   #143
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ummm-Hey Dogstar----remember how close I live if youre ready for a drink yet dear!
woooooa!!!!
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Old 11-23-2003, 09:52 PM   #144
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Hey Tonya...can I come too???

Cool down everyone.... I think we need a "time out" here.
Everyone over to Tonya's for a drink.
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Old 11-23-2003, 09:53 PM   #145
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LMAO Marcos!!!

Creedlvr, you DO have every right to express your opinions, but the manner in which you are leaves a lot to be desired. The fact that some don't agree with your opinions does not mean we should be subjected to your snide blah blah blah's. Dogstar is right, if you want to debate, you need facts, not he said/she said.

Stapp may be behind this, or it may be Mark. Who knows??? Maybe Flip is the culprit!! NOBODY but them at this point. So please stop shoving your blah blah blah's down our throats until we get facts.
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Old 11-23-2003, 09:54 PM   #146
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Yikes... cat fight central! :P

Anyway, imo all this bickering is a bit pointless -- but understandable. First of all nobody knows what happened yet; we still don't know the current status of Creed. Secondly, even if that much was known, we still wouldn't know WHY. This is all just conjecture based upon conjecture.

This is how rumors start... and evolve over time. It's human nature, though. Methinks Creed/WU had better come out with an "official" response to all this stuff before things get worse than they already are. As of right now it's just a bunch of nerdy Creed fans (including me) talking about this. Sooner or later it will diffuse through to the media -- and then THEY will start revving the big speculation engine. Seems to me that's the only thing WU (and perhaps Creed) cares about...
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Old 11-23-2003, 09:55 PM   #147
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where's Teri and her powers to close this thread (or to ban creedlvr) ????

heh! see Steve? I can be a fascist as well! LOL!
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Old 11-23-2003, 09:55 PM   #148
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Hey, I'm up for a drink too! Count me in, I'm buying the first round on one condition. No one mentions the words Mark, Stapp or Creed. We can listen to them but let's not talk about them, at least until we've finished our first round!!
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Old 11-23-2003, 09:58 PM   #149
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One more thing.


Stapp = stupid comments about Chicago

Mark = stupid comments about breakup

Flip's turn next....any guesses????



Hey guess what all.....they're human and make mistakes just like the
rest of us. Haven't we all made stupid comments??
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