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Old 11-03-2005, 02:12 PM   #16
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Justify lyrics could've been in MOP.
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Old 11-03-2005, 02:55 PM   #17
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Good job, guys! It's nice to see everyone pitching in with putting up these lyrics.
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Old 11-03-2005, 03:02 PM   #18
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Quote: (Originally Posted by Bridge of Clay) Is this directed at Mark?

Coz if it is, that's nice from Stapp. It's like he's apologizing.

You know, I am unsure if I heard the "his" part right. It could have been "this" or something that sounded similar. But I think it was "his". It just seems to fit the line better.

EDIT: I was just listening to Let Me Go, and I think I got that part for you, Steve:

"Now a man I'm lucky living"

As for "Justify", there's one correction to verse 2:

"Yeah I've been that man that lives deceit"

And for that part that is hard to understand, I'm not positive. But it sounds like he's saying "trance". That would obviously rhyme with the rest of the song, so I think that's correct.
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Old 11-04-2005, 10:10 AM   #19
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Quote: (Originally Posted by Creed7352) i think Hard Way is directly about/to mark and flip and the break up of creed.
No, I like to think it's not. Actually I think it might has to do with Hillarree, his ex-wife. She left Scott all alone to take care of little Jaggar. Check this out:

Quote: (Originally Posted by Hard Way) So let me tell a story friend
Of diamond hands and one night stands
I guess the good life paid you once or twice

Just when I thought I had it all
Caught a sucker pucnh and lost it all
Just never thought it would have come from you
I know Stapp met Hillarree at a bar. (I remember that from "VH1 - Creed Behind The Music". I mean, Hillarree leaving Stapp must have been much worse than Creed breaking up. I hope no songs on TGD are about AB and I pray AB will never make a song about Stapp either. I hope they're both more mature than that.

As for "Reach Out" and "Fight Song".

Reach Out: I'm sure you've heard the rumors, jealousy and all the lies
Yes, could be about AB. But come on, there's a lot of Stapp haters out there. I think this is more directed to the media. Sure it may be about the Creed break up, but I don't think it's a stab at AB. I mean; Stapp wrote stuff like that in Creed too. Bullets, What If, Freedom Fighter, etc...

I think Fight Song might have something to do with the break-up, but I think it's more of a "fight song". Not a "stabbing song". I mean like: "I've left my past behind me, here I am... (I do not fear you, do you fear me? Love again)" Kinda like Metalingus actually! Yeah, Fight Song is Stapp's version of Metalingus! Pretty cool thought... Although, if Fight Song and Metalingus were the out-comes of that break-up it can't have been a happy break-up. But then again most break-up kinda sucks.
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Old 11-04-2005, 11:02 AM   #20
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yes thats what i get out of too in one way DAMN IT FEELS GOOD TO SING IT OUT
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Old 11-04-2005, 11:42 AM   #21
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Seb... watch your words. I'm almost sure Mark admitted it's about Stapp.
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i don't recall hearing that ever marcos.
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Old 11-04-2005, 12:17 PM   #23
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Quote: (Originally Posted by Bridge of Clay) Seb... watch your words. I'm almost sure Mark admitted it's about Stapp.
Watch my words...? I've never ever heard Mark say that, but I was just posting a possible meaning behind those songs. And I didn't say Metalingus wasn't about Stapp, I said I think it's about the Creed break-up.

Quote: (Originally Posted by Creed7352) i don't recall hearing that ever marcos.
No, me neither...
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Old 11-04-2005, 12:53 PM   #24
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I always have a hard time understanding what Stapp says. Great job posting the lyrics!
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Old 11-04-2005, 01:06 PM   #25
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Haha, it is kinda hard to understand what he says at first. But I've gotten so accustomed to his vocal style throughout the years, so transcribing the lyrics that I did was a breeze. I'm thankful that someone else did "Justify", though. I think that song would have given me all kinds of trouble.
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Quote: (Originally Posted by The Lithium) Watch my words...? I've never ever heard Mark say that, but I was just posting a possible meaning behind those songs. And I didn't say Metalingus wasn't about Stapp, I said I think it's about the Creed break-up.


No, me neither...
No, man... not YOUR words.... I mean WATCH YOUR WORDS, the song.

I think I read it in a concert review posted by someone who met Mark after the gig. It'll take me forever to back it up, coz I don't remember who it was... but I can take it back just in case! :P
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well i say back it up, otherwise, *gets sad tone in voice* i'm afraid i can never trust you again marcos *sighs*

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On a side note, I think I agree with Lith on the meaning of "Hard Way". I think it's more likely that it is about Stapp's ex-wife than about his ex-bandmates. Looking at the lyrical content, it seems to really fit his ex.
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Quote: (Originally Posted by Creed7352) well i say back it up, otherwise, *gets sad tone in voice* i'm afraid i can never trust you again marcos *sighs*

LOL
LMAO!

I'm afraid I can't... ezboard just did me another favor... :S
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Quote: (Originally Posted by titan9) On a side note, I think I agree with Lith on the meaning of "Hard Way". I think it's more likely that it is about Stapp's ex-wife than about his ex-bandmates. Looking at the lyrical content, it seems to really fit his ex.
Thank you, I'm so proud I came up with that and that someone else agrees with me! Cheers!

Quote: (Originally Posted by Bridge of Clay) No, man... not YOUR words.... I mean WATCH YOUR WORDS, the song.
It is...? Well, I guess we can't be 100% sure, but even if it's true no one could ever have figured that out. So I guess it's okay to be inspired by a person to write a song. I mean; that's how music works. But I don't think they should try to stab either other in the back, that's just childish.
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