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Old 07-28-2003, 05:57 PM   #16
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Am I the only oen who puts them in pop section? But if they're not pop rock than who is?
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Creed pop rock...nah
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Old 07-28-2003, 07:25 PM   #18
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who is than?
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Not trying to bash them or anything But I think Linkin Park is kinda pop rock I like them though.
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Quote: Originally posted by Lechium
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Well, I don't think in any way that Creed is pop rock, but I must admit that Weathered got them kinda close.

Pop rock would be bands like "The Calling" or "Avril Lavine" or something like that.
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Pop = mass apeal (after all it's POPular)
creed is just that
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Quote: Originally posted by velocityidp
<b>Well, I don't think in any way that Creed is pop rock, but I must admit that Weathered got them kinda close.

Pop rock would be bands like "The Calling" or "Avril Lavine" or something like that. </b>
Ya The Calling and Avril kinda suck
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Well Metallica is popular too... they're probably more popular than Creed.

Is Metallica pop rock? I mean heck, there are lots of popular hard rock bands out there. You can't just all of a sudden classify their style as "pop rock" once their fanbase crosses a certain threshold.

It's an esoteric term. I think "pop rock" is defined best as "rock-style" music that sounds like pure pop-music.
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Metallica is touring with Linkin Park and Limp Bizkit (and Kid Rock some time back). You tell me if they sold out (and therefoire are pop) or still are true to their roots.
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Limp Bizkit They ruined that tour
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Quote: Originally posted by Lechium
Metallica is touring with Linkin Park and Limp Bizkit (and Kid Rock some time back). You tell me if they sold out (and therefoire are pop) or still are true to their roots.

"pop rock" is a musical genre, like soft rock or hard rock or metal. In the classical sense, it has nothing to do with the amount of tickets you sell.

Hip hop is *very* popular nowadays along with rap. Do we therefore call rap music pop-music? Come on.

"pop" has always been associated with the typical NSync/Britney/Christina/Backstreet Boys/etc that's been out there forever.
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Quote: Originally posted by velocityidp
<b>"pop rock" is a musical genre, like soft rock or hard rock or metal. In the classical sense, it has nothing to do with the amount of tickets you sell. &nbsp;

Hip hop is *very* popular nowadays along with rap. Do we therefore call rap music pop-music? Come on. &nbsp;

"pop" has always been associated with the typical NSync/Britney/Christina/Backstreet Boys/etc that's been out there forever. </b>


hip hop != rap, although some people dont know it.
commercial stuff aka pop is rap. Nelly and such are rap.
hip hop is more true to the roots, Jurassic 5, Black Eyed Peas, Mos Def and suchare hip hop.

it's not about tickets you sell, but it is about adapting your music to fit the market. If you conform -- you're playing pop, that's all there is to it.
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"Conform" is a pretty general word. Lots of groups in the hard rock arena conform to the hard rock sound. So I guess they are pop-rock too?
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they are sellouts
99% of stuff on the radio is pop
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Quote: Originally posted by Lechium
they are sellouts
99% of stuff on the radio is pop

So you're saying all bands that conform to the "hard rock sound" are sellouts? If your music attracts large crowds, you're a sellout? If your music is on the radio, you're a sellout pop artist?

Good grief, man, get back to reality. Musicians are not just some strange breed of people that merrily go about life not worrying about making money. Any serious musician -- even classical musicians -- want to make as much money as possible from their profession. We're not living in some dreamy wonderland.
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