Reasons why people hate Creed... - Page 7

TremontiPRS17 · 06-23-2003, 09:24 PM

If you notice in the song "Weathered" He says he is conceited and he needs help to control it...I find that oretty cool!

JenRN · 06-23-2003, 09:52 PM

Quote: Originally posted by TremontiPRS17
<b>If you notice in the song "Weathered" He says he is conceited and he needs help to control it...I find that oretty cool! </b>

jango · 06-24-2003, 12:08 AM

Quote: Originally posted by TremontiPRS17
we all love this guy here eh?

Heh...

hayley · 06-24-2003, 04:50 AM

I'm confused too, what the hell did you mean?

TremontiPRS17 · 06-25-2003, 08:22 PM

Ok in the damn song he Says "Im Colloused to the bone" (or how ever you spell "colloused".........anyway that means concieted and hard headed.......thats what I get from him...He realizes he is like that and he needs help. I am in a band and we are pretty well known locally and even at that level its easy to get a little egotistical

JenRN · 06-25-2003, 08:26 PM

Quote: Originally posted by TremontiPRS17
<b>Ok in the damn song he Says "Im Colloused to the bone" (or how ever you spell "colloused".........anyway that means concieted and hard headed.......thats what I get from him...He realizes he is like that and he needs help.  I am in a band and we are pretty well known locally and even at that level its easy to get a little egotistical </b>

Hmmmm.... I guess I just don't take it that way! I take that as he is "hardened" to things, not conceited!

Sheila63 · 06-25-2003, 08:40 PM

That's how I've always interpreted that part of the song too, Jen.

njcreedite · 06-25-2003, 09:35 PM

I don't think it means concieted at all....besides, in the chorus he's saying he's "barely holding together.." I think he's talking about how the fame and all that goes with it has been really hard to deal with. "Callous to the bone", I think refers to his additude towards the media/press/critics.. he's had to "harden" himself as Jen said to all the negative stuff that gets written about them.
They said they wrote this song just after they finished touring (the Human Clay tour). They were all really exhausted and their fame was never stronger than at that point. It was all just kind of overwhelming.
Just my opinion...
Linda

jango · 06-30-2003, 11:14 PM

cal·lous adj.
Having calluses; toughened: callous skin on the elbow.
Emotionally hardened; unfeeling: a callous indifference to the suffering of others.

cal·loused, cal·lous·ing, cal·lous·es
To make or become callous.

JenRN · 07-01-2003, 12:06 AM

Ummm....... yep, that is what I said!

njcreedite · 07-01-2003, 08:09 PM

Quote: JenRN Ummm....... yep, that is what I said!

I thought it sounded familiar:P

hotforscott · 07-03-2003, 07:43 PM

That makes much more sense, then conceited. LOL, it goes a little better with the rest of the song, too.
"My skin peels and it just won't heal"

njcreedite · 07-03-2003, 08:06 PM

from interview 8/23/03

STAPP: It's definitely changed us. I mean, come on, we'd be lying if we said it hasn't. It's completely changed our life. My concerns, the things I get upset about, are not the same things I would get upset about seven or eight years ago. Has it changed my character, the kind of person I am, the way I treat people? No. And the band for me specifically can validate this. I'm the same exact way back then that I am now. I think it's changed them more than it's changed me--and let me clarify that: They're more confident, they're more secure, and they speak their opinions more. I'm so glad that now I'm not going, "OK, I want to do it this way and they're like. [head nodding], 'OK.'" I need feedback, something, you know? And now it's even more of a band than it was before. But from a character standpoint, we've never let any of this sink in, because if you let any of this sink in, I don't think your brain can handle it, and I think that's when you go off of the deep end. So it's all kind of a big joke. We mean the music, but just all of the peripherals and that extra stuff, it's not real, and you just gotta look at it that way.

See, he says he's always treated people the way he does now....
The entire interview may be found at..
http://launch.yahoo.com/artist/interviews....rtistID=1030760

cool site...

JenRN · 07-03-2003, 08:36 PM

Thanks Linda!

njcreedite · 07-03-2003, 08:38 PM

Quote: JenRN Thanks Linda!

Your welcome Jen! I thought it was a really interesting interview....and rather insiteful.

06-23-2003, 09:52 PM	#92
JenRN USER INFO » Status: Tree of Wisdom Posts: 7,519 Joined: Oct 2002 Currently: Offline	Quote: Originally posted by TremontiPRS17 <b>If you notice in the song "Weathered" He says he is conceited and he needs help to control it...I find that oretty cool! </b> __________________ "I don't want to know emptiness, take me down to the water wanna be baptized in your love far away from the lonliness, take my heart and wash away the fear let me be baptized in your love" ~Lenny Kravitz "Baptized"

06-24-2003, 12:08 AM	#93
jango USER INFO » Status: Faceless Fan Posts: 460 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	Quote: Originally posted by TremontiPRS17 we all love this guy here eh? Heh... __________________ "Nineteen hundred and forty-six. Nineteen forty-six, Mandrake. How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works."

06-25-2003, 08:26 PM	#96
JenRN USER INFO » Status: Tree of Wisdom Posts: 7,519 Joined: Oct 2002 Currently: Offline	Quote: Originally posted by TremontiPRS17 <b>Ok in the damn song he Says "Im Colloused to the bone" (or how ever you spell "colloused".........anyway that means concieted and hard headed.......thats what I get from him...He realizes he is like that and he needs help.  I am in a band and we are pretty well known locally and even at that level its easy to get a little egotistical </b> Hmmmm.... I guess I just don't take it that way! I take that as he is "hardened" to things, not conceited! __________________ "I don't want to know emptiness, take me down to the water wanna be baptized in your love far away from the lonliness, take my heart and wash away the fear let me be baptized in your love" ~Lenny Kravitz "Baptized"

06-25-2003, 08:40 PM	#97
Sheila63 USER INFO » Status: Opened My Eyes Posts: 5,748 Joined: Dec 2002 Currently: Offline	That's how I've always interpreted that part of the song too, Jen. __________________ I was selfish, but you still loved me You gave the greatest gift of all And you set me free Relearn Love

06-25-2003, 09:35 PM	#98
njcreedite USER INFO » Status: INK'ed Posts: 808 Joined: Jan 2003 Currently: Offline	I don't think it means concieted at all....besides, in the chorus he's saying he's "barely holding together.." I think he's talking about how the fame and all that goes with it has been really hard to deal with. "Callous to the bone", I think refers to his additude towards the media/press/critics.. he's had to "harden" himself as Jen said to all the negative stuff that gets written about them. They said they wrote this song just after they finished touring (the Human Clay tour). They were all really exhausted and their fame was never stronger than at that point. It was all just kind of overwhelming. Just my opinion... Linda __________________ eddie vedder quote:: We were both singers. Chris Cornell The first time we played he came to this little club and he told me that it was really good and he was thankful that I was there and that I was who I was, or something really nice, but the whole time he was saying this, he didn't realize but he was standing under a black light, and his teeth were glowing and his eyes were glowing. I remember it as my first conversation with Satan ..."

06-23-2003, 09:24 PM	#91
TremontiPRS17 USER INFO » Status: Illusion Posts: 24 Joined: Jun 2003 Currently: Offline	If you notice in the song "Weathered" He says he is conceited and he needs help to control it...I find that oretty cool!

06-25-2003, 08:22 PM	#95
TremontiPRS17 USER INFO » Status: Illusion Posts: 24 Joined: Jun 2003 Currently: Offline	Ok in the damn song he Says "Im Colloused to the bone" (or how ever you spell "colloused".........anyway that means concieted and hard headed.......thats what I get from him...He realizes he is like that and he needs help. I am in a band and we are pretty well known locally and even at that level its easy to get a little egotistical

06-30-2003, 11:14 PM	#99
jango USER INFO » Status: Faceless Fan Posts: 460 Joined: Sep 2002 Currently: Offline	cal·lous adj. Having calluses; toughened: callous skin on the elbow. Emotionally hardened; unfeeling: a callous indifference to the suffering of others. cal·loused, cal·lous·ing, cal·lous·es To make or become callous. __________________ "Nineteen hundred and forty-six. Nineteen forty-six, Mandrake. How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works."

07-01-2003, 12:06 AM	#100
JenRN USER INFO » Status: Tree of Wisdom Posts: 7,519 Joined: Oct 2002 Currently: Offline	Ummm....... yep, that is what I said! __________________ "I don't want to know emptiness, take me down to the water wanna be baptized in your love far away from the lonliness, take my heart and wash away the fear let me be baptized in your love" ~Lenny Kravitz "Baptized"

07-01-2003, 08:09 PM	#101
njcreedite USER INFO » Status: INK'ed Posts: 808 Joined: Jan 2003 Currently: Offline	Quote: JenRN Ummm....... yep, that is what I said! I thought it sounded familiar:P __________________ eddie vedder quote:: We were both singers. Chris Cornell The first time we played he came to this little club and he told me that it was really good and he was thankful that I was there and that I was who I was, or something really nice, but the whole time he was saying this, he didn't realize but he was standing under a black light, and his teeth were glowing and his eyes were glowing. I remember it as my first conversation with Satan ..."

07-03-2003, 07:43 PM	#102
hotforscott USER INFO » Status: Shed My Skin Posts: 7,130 Joined: Apr 2003 Currently: Offline	That makes much more sense, then conceited. LOL, it goes a little better with the rest of the song, too. "My skin peels and it just won't heal" __________________ Got a new Papillon puppy named Ajax!

07-03-2003, 08:06 PM	#103
njcreedite USER INFO » Status: INK'ed Posts: 808 Joined: Jan 2003 Currently: Offline	from interview 8/23/03 STAPP: It's definitely changed us. I mean, come on, we'd be lying if we said it hasn't. It's completely changed our life. My concerns, the things I get upset about, are not the same things I would get upset about seven or eight years ago. Has it changed my character, the kind of person I am, the way I treat people? No. And the band for me specifically can validate this. I'm the same exact way back then that I am now. I think it's changed them more than it's changed me--and let me clarify that: They're more confident, they're more secure, and they speak their opinions more. I'm so glad that now I'm not going, "OK, I want to do it this way and they're like. [head nodding], 'OK.'" I need feedback, something, you know? And now it's even more of a band than it was before. But from a character standpoint, we've never let any of this sink in, because if you let any of this sink in, I don't think your brain can handle it, and I think that's when you go off of the deep end. So it's all kind of a big joke. We mean the music, but just all of the peripherals and that extra stuff, it's not real, and you just gotta look at it that way. See, he says he's always treated people the way he does now.... The entire interview may be found at.. http://launch.yahoo.com/artist/interviews....rtistID=1030760 cool site... __________________ eddie vedder quote:: We were both singers. Chris Cornell The first time we played he came to this little club and he told me that it was really good and he was thankful that I was there and that I was who I was, or something really nice, but the whole time he was saying this, he didn't realize but he was standing under a black light, and his teeth were glowing and his eyes were glowing. I remember it as my first conversation with Satan ..."

07-03-2003, 08:36 PM	#104
JenRN USER INFO » Status: Tree of Wisdom Posts: 7,519 Joined: Oct 2002 Currently: Offline	Thanks Linda! __________________ "I don't want to know emptiness, take me down to the water wanna be baptized in your love far away from the lonliness, take my heart and wash away the fear let me be baptized in your love" ~Lenny Kravitz "Baptized"

07-03-2003, 08:38 PM	#105
njcreedite USER INFO » Status: INK'ed Posts: 808 Joined: Jan 2003 Currently: Offline	Quote: JenRN Thanks Linda! Your welcome Jen! I thought it was a really interesting interview....and rather insiteful. __________________ eddie vedder quote:: We were both singers. Chris Cornell The first time we played he came to this little club and he told me that it was really good and he was thankful that I was there and that I was who I was, or something really nice, but the whole time he was saying this, he didn't realize but he was standing under a black light, and his teeth were glowing and his eyes were glowing. I remember it as my first conversation with Satan ..."

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