Guns = Violence?

[uncertaindrumer]

This is an issue I am sort of divided on. While I don't think getting rid of guns for civilians will solve the problem (at least not entirely), I also don't see why ANYONE, would EVER want a gun. The ONLY THING THEY CAN DO is kill or at least severely injure other people. I could never shoot a gun at another person.

I understand not everyone is like me but I don't get why people would WANT to have the abiltiy to SHOOT someone. It makes no sense. I DEFINITELY don't think there should be automatic rifles available for civilian use. I mean, like others have said, lots of criminals don't get the guns legally anyway, but some do.

I don't know. My mind is very divided on the issue.

[Ana4Stapp]

Quote: (Originally Posted by uncertaindrumer)

This is an issue I am sort of divided on. While I don't think getting rid of guns for civilians will solve the problem (at least not entirely), I also don't see why ANYONE, would EVER want a gun. The ONLY THING THEY CAN DO is kill or at least severely injure other people. I could never shoot a gun at another person.

I understand not everyone is like me but I don't get why people would WANT to have the abiltiy to SHOOT someone. It makes no sense. I DEFINITELY don't think there should be automatic rifles available for civilian use. I mean, like others have said, lots of criminals don't get the guns legally anyway, but some do.

I don't know. My mind is very divided on the issue.

Well I agree with you that owtlawing the guns WONT ban the violence, the problem is much more deep than this...and even though I voted for 'NO' (which means to keep guns commerce as legal, even though it is extremely restrict here) I also think that people getting guns at home is completely wrong. Nothing good can result of this kind of situation.

And like I said before, NO was like a huge public protest ...

[eusebioCBR]

Let's not forget, dictators prefer un-armed peasants. Our founding fathers wrote in detail the need for the 2nd amendment.

[Mulletman]

You dont penalize the majority for the acts of the minority. You dont round up and deport all illegals because a small amount of them cannot obey the law. You dont condem all muslims because or a small amount of radicals making the the 10 o'clock news. You dont penalize the majority of the acts of the minority.

I own a gun and another weapon that is considered illegal by local and state laws. I also know how to create explosives. I can very easily create a destructive device with a 15 dollar Home Depot gift certificate. But just because I can does not mean that I do. I have a gun for protection and I enjoy the right that enables me to own one, but that doesnt mean that everyone should have one. Normal, sane, lawful citizens should be the ones allow to keep them. When you punch someone they dont end up shot. Most, if not ALL, gun related crimes are premeditated. You dont reach into your pocket for Altoids and pull out a 9mm that "allegedly", shoots a clerk in the face.

RoffeDH, your friend is a freak. He is either faking it (where my money's at) or sick. If its the latter, then his psychological problems will mostly likey destroy him (literaly and figuratively). People like this should not be allow to come near any sort of weapon. He is the minority that gives the majority a bad name.

If you outlaw something that a majority wants (drugs, prostitution, cigarrettes, guns, etc..) all you're doing is creating a black market for that product. If gangster wants a glock he will get one, even if they have been outlawed. He'll just have to travel a little bit farther to get it. There will just be more people stealing guns, more people transporting guns, and ONLY the bad people will be aquiring the guns.

[RMadd]

Quote: (Originally Posted by Mulletman)

I own a gun and another weapon that is considered illegal by local and state laws.

sweeeeeeeeeeeeet

i guess my only question is, if you're not going to use it, what's the point? just for the sake of owning something illegal?

[Mulletman]

With the illegal weapon? Clepto.

[Ana4Stapp]

Quote: (Originally Posted by uncertaindrumer)

I also don't see why ANYONE, would EVER want a gun. The ONLY THING THEY CAN DO is kill or at least severely injure other people. I could never shoot a gun at another person.

I understand not everyone is like me but I don't get why people would WANT to have the abiltiy to SHOOT someone. It makes no sense...

If everyone was like you ... getting this way of thinking ...

[Bridge of Clay]

the whole thing was ridiculous, a huge waste of time and money.

I voted for "No". I don't own a gun and I don't intend to have one, but if I change my mind, I do want to have the RIGHT to buy it.

Secondly, the goverment did it waiting for a brief reduction of crime rate in short time when we all know the effect wouldn't last much. Goverment needs to their role of providing security for the citizens instead of being away in trips or forgiving debts from smaller countries or helping Venezuela with their financial crisis or buying votes from senators or hiding the fact the the President's part took part on the killing of a mayor of their own party because he was about to spill the shit.

You'll only reduce crime rates with education, health and employment for the minorities.

Secondly, people who wanna kill, will find another way to do it, either by knives, bats or wrists. In the week of the referendum, a guy in love for his room mate stabbed him to death because he wasn't homossexual and didn't want to have a relationship with him...

Third, what Chase said about Australia is true. It happened not only there but also on many other countries and US states.

[uncertaindrumer]

I wonder how many times people ACTUALLY use a gun to defend themselves... I bet the number would be ludicrously low. I just DO NOT see the point of owning a gun, period.

And someone says dictators like unarmed peasants? Give me a friggin break. This isn't the days of militia anymore. No amount of "armed" peasants is going to stop a tyranical despot.

[Ana4Stapp]

Quote: (Originally Posted by Bridge of Clay)

the whole thing was ridiculous, a huge waste of time and money.

I voted for "No". I don't own a gun and I don't intend to have one, but if I change my mind, I do want to have the RIGHT to buy it.

Secondly, the goverment did it waiting for a brief reduction of crime rate in short time when we all know the effect wouldn't last much. Goverment needs to their role of providing security for the citizens instead of being away in trips or forgiving debts from smaller countries or helping Venezuela with their financial crisis or buying votes from senators or hiding the fact the the President's part took part on the killing of a mayor of their own party because he was about to spill the shit.

You'll only reduce crime rates with education, health and employment for the minorities.

Secondly, people who wanna kill, will find another way to do it, either by knives, bats or wrists. In the week of the referendum, a guy in love for his room mate stabbed him to death because he wasn't homossexual and didn't want to have a relationship with him...

LOVED your post, Marcos !!!! Great!!!!