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Old 02-07-2004, 03:46 PM   #17
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Quote: (Originally Posted by BearFan) I do not believe in this double election stuff. God wants everyone to be in heaven with him, but b/c of the sin in this world, and satan's trickery and all, not everyone does. God, by no means, damns anyone to hell before they are born.

what's your proof?

Romans 9:17 - 23, "For the Scripture says to pharaoh, "For this very purpose, I raised you up, to demonstrate My power in you, and that My Name might be proclaimed throughout the whole earth. So then He has mercy on whom He desires, and He hardens whom He desires. You will say to me then, 'why does He still find fault, for who resists His will?' But on the contrary, who are you, oh man, to answer back to God? The thing molded will not say to the molder, 'why did you make me like this?' will it? Or does not the potter have the right over the clay to make from the same lump, one velles for honorable use, and another for common use? What is God, although willing to demonstrate His wrath and to make His power known endured with much patience veeeles of wrath prepared for destruction? And he did so in order that He might make known the righes of His glory upon vessels of mercy, which He prepared beforehand for glory."

Ephesians 1:4, "Just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before Him."

The ones that God "chose" in this instance, are those how will be saved. What happenes to those who He did not choose? Are they left to wander around on the earth with no hope? Yes and no. Common sense tells us that if God chooses some people to go to heaven, then those that He did not choose to go to heaven, He chose them to go to hell.
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