[Lunar Shadow]

Quote: (Originally Posted by uncertaindrumer)

Man who wants to read all that... lol

And anyway, anarkist, I don't see what impasse we have reached. I continue stating the logical premise that a moral order that doesn't come from something higher is no moral order at all, and you never refute it. What say you? How can we have morals without someone who decides what morals are? Subjective morals aren't morals at all.

If you'd like I can get you materal on objective natualistic morality. gimmie a bit here I need to go out and run some errands.