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Quote: (Originally Posted by uncertaindrumer)

I never said Bush is God. That is so absurd. I think Bush is in the wrong religion, I think he is often a nut head. I never said Islam is evil either. But would it surprise anyone I think they are responsible for a LOT of problems? I think the religion is totally false and built off a lie, it focuses on the degredation of women, the defeat of the infidels, war war war. Someone please show me where this HASN'T been a major thing Islam has focused on. When have they been peaceful? Im not saying every individual is a warmonger, but the religion as a whole seems to breed violence. You can say it doesn't mean to if you really want (I have never read much of the koran, or however you spell it) but regardless of what it means to do it DOES cause a lot of problems.

I can agree that islam is a religion still in the 14 century spreading violence...but still its our opinion...our western opinion...that of course is biased...but I cant say their religion is false...

Quote: (Originally Posted by uncertaindrumer)

B]When Christianity was expanding rapidly at the beginning of the calendar, it did so by conversion and peaceful means.[/b] Islam just conquered everyone

I think you miss you history classes...

Quote: (Originally Posted by uncertaindrumer)

You think I think America represents goodness? Ummm... hello? We murder millions a year and basically created the morally corrupt and depraved generation we now live in. Rampant sexuality, pornography, abortion, lack of morals, etc. etc. Are all children of America. America is the anti-Islam. Islam is what happens when you use a religious idea to make war. America is what happens when you get rid of all Religious ideals period. Islam isn't responsible for all the world's problems. America has plenty to do with that, as does Germany, Russia, Britain etc. etc.

I can see good points in here...and Im glad you at least recognize the (bad) part of your country in this situation...

Quote: (Originally Posted by uncertaindrumer)

But I'm not gonna sit here and say "Oh yeah, Islam has been a quiet peaceful state for all time and a few extremists are ruining its name" because that just is not true.

Did you ever sit and notice that they think the same about your America...its too much a biased and naive opinion to put all the blame just in Islamism ...and completely ignoring the enormous problem WE have...