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Higher_Desire · 01-03-2005, 04:26 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by aussiecreeder) yeah we're going around in circles but in your reply just now you stated no your works don't save you and then later on said its not faith that saves you. what is it?

No I never said that. To boil it down... You must show your faith through your works to be saved. They are both needed.

Quote: (Originally Posted by aussiecreeder) anyhow we're not getting anywhere........i'm not disputing faith without works is dead. what i am disputing is that works save because they clearly do not. i thought it was a relatively simple concept......

Works alone do not save and I never said that they did. What I said was that faith without works is dead (James 2:14-26). Faith cannot survive without works, and your works show your faith. One without the other is good but not good enough.

H-D

01-03-2005, 04:26 PM	#41
Higher_Desire USER INFO » Status: Found Peace Posts: 8,631 Joined: Apr 2003 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by aussiecreeder) yeah we're going around in circles but in your reply just now you stated no your works don't save you and then later on said its not faith that saves you. what is it? No I never said that. To boil it down... You must show your faith through your works to be saved. They are both needed. Quote: (Originally Posted by aussiecreeder) anyhow we're not getting anywhere........i'm not disputing faith without works is dead. what i am disputing is that works save because they clearly do not. i thought it was a relatively simple concept...... Works alone do not save and I never said that they did. What I said was that faith without works is dead (James 2:14-26). Faith cannot survive without works, and your works show your faith. One without the other is good but not good enough. H-D __________________ Today I'm gonna try a little harder Gonna make every minute last longer Gonna learn to forgive and forget 'Cause we don't have long Gonna make the most of it Today I'm gonna love my enemies Reach out to somebody who needs me Make a change, make the world a better place 'Cause tomorrow could be one day too late --lyrics from "One Day Too Late" by Skillet from their new album "Awake"