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Old 08-05-2004, 05:42 PM   #18
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Quote: (Originally Posted by Rune) I would first like to start by saying that the title of this thread should be changed to "Cold Hard Opinion" because it is nothing but that. If you read the responses to this thread you can plainly see that obviously not everyone thinks the same way.

I'm going to state my opinion while trying not to insult those pro stapp bastards.

I think overall, from a musical standpoint, not just focusing on one instrument or another (and yes i consider vocals an instrument) i think Alter Bridge is a much tighter sound overall then stapp is.

If you want to make an argument over Myles voice, i can make the same argument over the entire musical accompaniment with Relearn Love.

Honestly i can understand why people like stapp, he does have a very PASSIONATE voice, but they also have to respect the fact that what Myles may lack in passion, he makes up for considerably with SKILL. I guaruntee you with the way Myles is singing there will be very few tour dates canceled due to voice problems like stapp had.

The way i look at it is this: i've recorded in a studio before, i know what it's like, most people do not. When you record a song, you do not sing/play it once and everything is perfect, and that's a rap (unless you're dream theatre). Most of the times, especially if a person is a perfectionist, and even if they are not perfectionist, you still end up playing parts several times over just to get them sounding better.

I personally recorded two extremely emotional and passionate songs (rock, not emo, do NOT kid yourself there), but i also sang them over, and over, and over again until i was happy with the sound. The only problem with doing that is that it tends to lose a lot of the passion that you would get....say....from a LIVE performance perhaps?

All i'm saying is to the people bashing Myles, wait until you hear him live before you cast your final judgement.

Also, on the subject of Stapp, i have listened to Relearn Love several times, and i consider this an opposite argument of what the Myles Bashers have.

Myles bashers (for the most part) agree that the music in AB's songs is tight, but Myles voice isn't great (of course i strongly disagree here), my counter argument for Stapp's work is that it is a good voice singing a poor song. Take that however you will, but we all know stapp is capable of singing well, but the song just flat out sucks (IMHO of course).

Anyways, i'm almost certain Myles live sound will be amazing. Honestly, Myles is a better vocalist than stapp purely based on talent and technique. Maybe Myles chooses not to rasp his voice and throat to hell like stapp does, but honestly i think it's a better choice to lose a little of the edge so that you can still speak 20 years later. (and that's why stapp had to cancel tour dates, if you keep singing that way you will destroy your vocal chords)

I see it as Stapp's loss in this case, AB's music has evolved considerably from Creed days, Mark has become an incredible (or more incredible anyways) guitarist, and Flip has also gotten a LOT better (you may not have noticed, but all his beats are much more creative and solid), and Brian is as good as ever.

AB is purely a collaboration of excellent musicians, Stapp is just a singer singing poor songs with a backup band and that will never measure up to the combined emotion of an entire band playing their own songs.

Bottom line: it's all about enthusiasm and showmanship.


That's my 2 cents, take it for what it's worth

In response to your 2 cents Stapp will do fine on his own. His song speaks for itself he is on a different path. The lyrics are reflection of forgiveness and his faith. That is what drew alot of people to Creed. Sure he will lose some fans who are pro Alterbridge but he will gain new one's. Music is not his entire life he has a son that he loves dearly and business ventures. I think he is at a point he doesn't have to be number one. He had great success and for him a stable happy life is what is important to him. He will always have a following because he was blessed with a gift to write great lyrics. As for as Alterbridge I think your correct Mark, Flip and Brian are at the top of their game maybe for them they still have a need to be the number one rock act in the world that is their choice and the fans will decide whether they like them or not. However, in music it's not always about the music it is also about can you connect with the audience. Do you have that special something and you may not agree with me but Stapp has that. Every board I am always on any discussion about Stapp whether positive or negative always gets the most responses and for everyone who thinks he sucks or hate him there is someone who love's him in such a passionate way that you can't explain it and that is what Stapp has it's that certain quality and as for Myles time will only tell. On the board I have read either people love his voice or detest it's just a matter of personal choice.

Last edited by musiclover291 : 08-05-2004 at 05:49 PM.
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