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I like both bands, one a litlle more than the other. I do not agree that creed was nothing in the way of rock. Actually I can't remember too many cd's like MOP or human clay that you play from start to finish and not get sick of.

You personally, maybe. but msot people could even listen to three songs off of human cly without getting bored. To msot people--including me, these days--they all sound a LOT alike. MOP was decent, though.

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yeah Weathered was a litle on the side of commercial, but it still had some good tunes, but was nowhere as good as the first two.

I still think Weathered was less commercial than HC. Weathered at least had bullets. HC had... nothing, really. What if, MAYBE, but even that was more radio friendly than bullets.

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I have bought so many rock cd's that have one or two good songs and the rest sucked and creed was like a breath of fresh air when they came out.

There is no denying that rock sucks these days. The only difference is, you look at Creed as different from everyone else, I look at them as the same as everyone else.

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so many bands Staind ,Limp bizkit, linkin park, bit off of creed's ideas its sickening how much stainds lead singer sound like stap when he sings...ughh.

Linkin Park bit off Creed? I abhor Linkin Park and wish they would dissappear, but even I would not say they copied off Creed. They sound NOTHING like Creed.

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Yeah alot of people compare creed and pearl jam, but lets be serious Cred had way more success as a band than pear jam did and sounded nothing like them,

There you go again. Equating success with how good someone is. Who has had more success: Creed, or eminem? Holy crud its eminem, I guess he is better than Creed!

Also, denyign the similarites between PJ and Creed is dumb. Also, if it hadn't been for PJ there would never have BEEN A Creed so you better thank them. And its funny how one second you complain about Staind's singer sounding like Stapp, and ignore that Stapp just sound exactly like Eddie Vedder, except that Vedder is slightly more consistant.

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mark is a way better guitarist

Sure as heck didn't show it often in Creed.

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and Stapp wrote way better songs

Stapp only wrote lyrics, which barely count as "songs". Also, Stapp's lyrics were unoriginal and predictable. He is not a great songwriter at all.

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to the point where Pearl jam was making remakes of songs just to sell records and now theyve dissapeared.'

Wow. Before, I thought you didn't know what you were talking about. Now I KNOW you don't know what you are talking about. Pearl Jam could be HUGE, and if they wanted to could hjave had a TON more success than Creed. But unlike Creed, they didn't sell out and go commercial to sell records. They actually *gasp* TRIED to stay out of the mainstream. Ever seen a PJ music vid? They have VERY FEW, and that is not just because they have stagefright.

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Nowadays I crave listening to a creed or AB song because in my opinon there is noone out there that is better right now. Three doors down is a decent band and have some good songs.

You like 3DD too? Well geez.

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Your right modern rock does kinda suck,

Indeed.

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but I dont think that it creeds fault that evertone wanted to copy their sound and style.

Creed jsut copied other's styles. Creed did not invent alternative post-grunge.

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I cant think of one good cd that has come close to comparing to MOP or Human Clay recently,

Foo Fighter's In Your Honor blows anything by Creed or AB out of the water. Audioslave's Out of Exile as well. OOE doesn't avoid all the cliches, but it has some unique stuff on there.

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all the bands nowadays are one hit wonders..

Not exactly. Most bands make one song, get famous off of it, and then make song after song that sounds just like it. *couch* higher *cough*

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And I have to apoligize, AB is one hell of a band for the time theyve been together, Myles has potential,

Myles IS the potential in that band. I have said it before and will again. Myles has more than half the talent in that band.

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I just get aggervated when I tell people I like AB and they start laughing because they dont think the singers that good, I dont know...I guess Im confused.

And I get aggravated when people listen to rap all day long. People. People, people. If someone tells you that Myles is nto a very good singer, tell them to shut up and learn a little about singing. I HIGHLY doubt they know anything about it. Ask them if they have ever taken lessons, i they have ever trained their voice, or in general if they know ANYTHING about singing. THEY DON'T. I have not only dabbled in singing, but know quite a few people very serious about it, and they will all tell you, Myles completely blows away modern rock singers. Just because the stupid mainstream can't handle tenors does not mean they are not good. Myles is amazing.