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Quote: (Originally Posted by Higher_Desire)

I know I shouldn't get involved here because nothing new is going to happen. Let me just start by saying, don't let one speak for all.

Now let me say this. It origianlly stemmed from the biblical teaching of "As man is, God once was. As God is, man may become." It has been blown way out of proportion since Joseph Smith wrote of it and spoke about it. And Genesis 3:5 says: "For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil."

Now get it straight: We can become as gods. I AM NOT saying the ONLY Mormons are included in this. This pertains to ALL who inherit the kingdom of God from ANY religion. I don't know why you keep saying that we are avoiding the topic. We tell you this every time you say something about it. Also, MANY LDS people are still confused about the teaching. It has been clarified many times by the president of the church as well as others in high church authority.

You say they hummed and hawed around the subject when I think you're not telling the whole story. They probably said something to the effect of "Well, you see, it's not that simple. It's not as cut and dry like that." and you were once again construing what people say. Ultimatly, one CAN become a creator in the next life. The bible teaches that we will inherit the kingdom of God and can learn EVERYTHING that he knows. Why would that exclude creation? But, as I've told you before, JUST BECAUSE ONE CAN, DOES NOT MEAN ONE WILL.


First, you are right that that teaching is unbiblical, however, you are wrong in saying that we teach it. This is the basis: All was in the beginning with God. Good and evil are neither created or destroyed as they are concepts. God did create Lucifer, as he did all spirits. He also created Jesus as a spirit. Satan wanted to be sent to earth instead of Jesus and he would make everyone do the right thing and return to him. That was not God's way, and Jesus was sent. Lucifer rebelled and was kicked out of heaven. He then became the "fallen angel." He was cut off from ties with God. THEY ARE NOT BROTHERS AND THE CHURCH DOESN'T TEACH THAT. That is only inferred by people as being what it is.

About women. The same thing applies to men. There is no sex after death. People cannot get married to other spirits after death.

Now, let me give you a brief overview of the story of Abraham.
Joseph Smith acquired the mummies from a man named Michael Chandler. He claimed to have recieved them from a man named Antonio Lobollo in his will when he died because he was a relative. Through searches, it it believed that Chandler's wife was actually the relative. Lobollo was an Italian who did archeological work in Egypt. When someone would remove something from an area, they would put their name on it. Since then, the name of "Lobollo" has been found in areas of Egypt. Chandler lived in Philadelphia. He contacted Joseph Smith in Ohio because he was told of a man who translated plates from another language. He traveled to see Smith and sold him the mummies for about $3,000. Joseph left the mummies in his will to his wife Emma. After JS was killed, Emma remarried Colonel Biddham (a colonel in the Confederate Army) and they donated the mummies to a museum in Chicago. In the great Chicago fire, the mummies were destroyed. Prior to that time, the papyrus that was with them were shown to be ultimately translated correctly. Keep in mind that it wasn't until the discovery of the Rosetta Stone that made many translations known. That is happened, and they have not been shown to be false.


Aren't you guys getting tired of this? Or is it that you have nothing better to do with your time than try to argue what you don't know and point out falts in others when you yourselves have imperfections.

Just out of curiosity, what religions do you belong to?


H-D

first of all i don't want to be seen as picking on you and facelessman and sincirr probably doesn't either. however i think your church teaches blatant error in fundamental areas of doctrine. btw i belong to a brethern church which is similar to a baptist church if you were wondering. basically a straight-forward teaching of the bible. as for what you said first of all satan is saying there that they can become like gods, in that they'll know good and evil, not that they'ld literally become gods. Satan was right, Adam and Eve did know good and evil in the story but he neglected to mentioned the pain involved in that choice. i'll come back to the papyrus issue a bit later when i've done some more research.