I saw them live, they were opening for creed and were actually pritty good (alot better then 12 stones who had their sign on upside down and looked like a bunch of garage band kids desperatly trying to get the crowd (who were getting drinks and seats) to listen to them.
heh the 12 stone singer was like "OK EVERYONE LETS GET SOME ENERGY!! I WANT YOU TO ALL STAND ON YOUR FEET AND JUMP!!!!" and one dude stands up, looks around sees that noone cares and sits back down, heh.
12 stones is non-existant in canada, the only thing ive ever heard of them ever is from that evenesance song, where the singer did that back vocal