[Lunar Shadow]

Quote: (Originally Posted by SecretWeapon)

It's amazing how you guys will go on and on and on like
"please show proof, I can't even believe that humans breath
with their lungs until you prove it to me" and "even gravity is still
a theory" ...

and then you turn around and keep saying "we have no proof, there
is no proof"

Well, I've read that there is proof ,outside of the Bible of Jesus'
exsistanceand also his resurrection. Unfortunaltey, those were
anecdotes, and I can't back them up. However, I do know that
Christians are commanded not to lie, whereas atheists should have
no problem lying. There is no God- there are no rules, there are
no morals, there is no right. I have known evolutionists to
stalk creationist scientists who claim to have proof against
present theories, and to destroy what would seem to be evidence
against them. While is it intirely possible that christians would lie,
and probably do at times, it's logical to say that since christians
at least feel obliged to be truthful, whereas there's not alot
stopping an athiest from telling a fiblet, or giving out a piece of misinformation.This logic would seem to suggest that there
might be more of a chance of truth in a Christian's results than in
an Atheist's, especially a militant atheist's.

Also, instead of insisting that there is no proof, why don't you
show us the lack of proof, denouncing the proof that is false,
or shedding light in the misunderstandings in science/history, instead
of telling us that we are wrong, demanding proof for EVERYTHING,
while you yourselves give no evidence of your own.

Continuing this arguement the way you are, who would believe
you?Would you believe the things you're saying if no proof, or
lack thereof, was shown?

Saying "show proof, show proof" but then you show none,
where is your side of the argument? You're fighting "swords"
with "imaginary swords" , asking for more than just an anecdote
for every little thing, and yet giving no more than just "there's no proof".


I find it very difficult to carry on an open debate when I'm accused
of being a liar every time I open my mouth.

With earnest
Ryan

Oh no Ralphy he figured us out...He has discovered the Evil Atheist Conspiracy we must do away with him before he can tell anyone

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honestly here ryan there is plenty reason for me not to lie you wanna know why because if I am not truthful how can I expect people to believe me and if I lie how can I expect anyone to do anything different? Yes I am an Atheist but I have morals and honor and integrity these things are not exclusive to religion they existed before and they will exist after.... try reading Richard Carrier's "Sense and goodness with out god" it shows how there are morals with out religion.

you should try not to spout off about things you obviously know nothing of


and I thin its great that you think that evolutionists will distroy any evidence (with as weak as it is) that the oxymoron or "creation science" comes up with you make a positive assurtion that evolutionists destroy that so-called evidence that means the burden of proof is on you


now if you are refering to the "proof of jesus out side he bible" bein the writings of Josephus then you are gravely mistaking because thoes have been shown to be frauds made by Eucibius.