[Lunar Shadow]

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Don't be a fool. You don't think I've seen the "evidence"
against God's existance? I grew up in the public school , where
evolution is preached with a passion. I know the "evidence"
well . As a very curious child ,I've heard almost all the theories
and ideas about dinosaurs ,and space , life , earth , etc ...
I have seen and studied much of the misinformation that you
evolutionist shove down the public's throat. I DO know that
evolution lacks the evidence to hold it up as a theory. The
hypothosis of evolution (aka theory of evolution) is a highly improbable
idea , a naive attemp of man which says that time+chance can create
the world we live in , and even catagorizes humans with apes ,
an unproved connection which is taught as though it's fact to our children.
There has been NO evidence of the precious "missing link".
As if there's ONE missing link! According to you guys , there are
several links , none of which have been found or proven. There
have been instances in which evolutionist tried to convince the
world that they'd found proof of "the" missing link- one man confessed that the
tooth belonged to an extinct pig , another time the scientist admitted
that his "find" (a bone) belonged to a local ape. Not to mention ,
whenever there is possible evidence against evolution , what happens?
Some people show up and destroy the evidence. Who? Why , none
other than evolutionists. It seems that , instead of being open-minded,
serious scientists, interested in learning the truth about our world,
they turn out to be tyrannic , flawed people who revere evolution
as the ultimate religion. Yes , I said it , evolution is a RELIGION.
Why else would so many people die for it , murder for it , steal for it ,
and cheat for it , destroying the possible evidence of the truth? That's
not science , my friends , that's RELIGION. Moving away from evolution,
I'd like to talk about the origin of existance. Either

Who said that you cannot have Evolution with god?? I mean did you ever consider that your god used evolution as a tool.

Regardless There have been plenty of as you put it "missing links" that have been produced when you ask for just one but when one is produced you ask for another and an other and so on.... your camp just keeps moving the goal posts because every time a fossil is produced it creates another gap that your camp wants filled nothing is good enough for you people there in lies the problem with you people.

Evolution is a theory there is evidence for it we see species adapt before our very eyes (the Finch comes to mind) and you to deny it even to be a theory is laughable considering that you are a creationist (which is a hypothesis at best). Check out talkorigins.com is you want to actually get the facts on Evolution.

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A) The world was created by an all powerful God.

B) The entire universe was once contained in an impossibly dense
sphere the size of the head of a pen ,and suddenly burst open ,
spreading all matter across existance ,and the universe we know today
are the reprocusions of this magnificent burst. (The Big Bang)

or

C)The universe has always existed

You are commitng fallacy here the "either or fallacy" did you consider that maybe there is a possibility that there might be another option??

Matter can neither be created nor destroyed (the laws of thermodynamics) laws that your camp loves to trump (only when they work in your favor mind you). Which again is cherry picking which is also fallacy. Getting back to the point the fact of the matter is that matter always was and always will be... there for the solid state universe is a very plausible theory.

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Well , considering , the VERY VERY HIGH improbability of all matter
being held in a very dense body (which still does NOT explain how
the tiny body of matter was created in the first place) ,and ,also
considering Newtons laws of movement , ie , an object in motion
tends to stay in motion ,unless acted upon by an outside force,
and AN OBJECT WITHOUT MOTION TENDS TO STAY WITHOUT
MOTION UNLESS ACTED UPON BY AN OUTSIDE FORCE ,
we must conclude that this idea is completely and utterly wrong,
until proof is provided that says otherwise , until man makes
a universe in a test tube , we cannot accept this idea.

I hate to break it to you but the big bang is being thrown by the wayside they find the red shift to be unreliable they have for that the universe isn't moving at all another point for the solid state universe.

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Also , according to the vast majority of scientists , everything
in the universe is in a process , which they were all put in
at the creation of the universe. Everything in the universe is changing,
and the universe is expanding , clearly this could not have been the case
an ENFINITY back into the past ... No , the universe had to have been
created at some time , by something or Someone.

Do tell me your sources I would be interested

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.......more mindless dribble

There are dozens and dozens of prophecies in the old testament
of the messiah , who would become sin , and die so that the sin
that all mankind was cursed with at his fall could be forgiven.
And that , once the sin was gone , God would raise Him from the
dead , all power in heaven and earth would be given to Him ,
and it is He who will judge everyone's soul , after they've had
their whole lifetime to come to Him ,accepting His sacrifice.
The odds that EVEN 10 OF THESE PROPHECIES TO BE FULFILLED
IN ONE HUMAN BEING ARE EXTREMELY , EXTREMELY SLIM.
Jesus fulfilled EVERY SINGLE ONE.

please give some biblical referance rather than just your say so

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.....more dribble we have heard over 10000 times

We have found much proof in archeology , especially in Egypt
that many of the miracles (especially of Moses' time) were true.
And that the Bible is history , we have found many places that
the Bible talks about , we have evidence that would suggest a
worldwide flood , talked about in Genisis.

There is not archeological proof that the Jews were ever enslaved in Egypt or for the account of Exodus. There is no evidence for a world wide flood and anyone who says different is fooling themselves or trying to sell you something.

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All in all , there is NOT enough proof , in all the world
that could convince me that all existance can be brought down to
Time+Chance. According to your logic , if we placed a can of
Campbells chicken noodle soup on the floor , and watched for long
enough , even billions of years , that life , eventually human life,
would spring from that can of soup. After all, it has all the
nessasary amino acids , protiens , not to mention water , in order
for life to form. But I wouldn't hold my breath. Even if life is created
from scratch in a test tube , that STILL does not prove that life
can be created without intellegent life . I mean , duh , that's just
commom sense ...

This obviously shows that you have no understanding of the theory of Evolution which is funny since you say you have a good understanding of it.

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Thus I am left with one conclusion-

That there is a God who exists , He is everything the Bible
says He is , the Bible is the ultimate book of truth ,
there is no room for evolution , big bang theories ,
or chicked noodle soup human civilizations.

GOD IS TRUE AND HE IS WHO THE BIBLE SAYS HE IS .

If you say no , then I do very much pity you , my brother .
You are mentioned in the Bible ,too ,actually. It says,
"He will give them over to their reprobate minds" And so
you have proven the Bible as truth , even in your disbelief.

Last , but certainly not least , I know God to be true
from personal experience . Had you lived my life ,and seen the
unexplainable (and ,trust me , I don't say "unexplainable" lightly)
things which I have seen , had you felt the amazing Grace and Peace that
I have felt , then you would have NO DOUBT either. I am very sorry
for your decision to reject Him.

I think that covers just about everything.

With love ,
your still potential brother in Christ,
Ryan

And your conclusion is that of nothing but refusing to examine any evidence from the other side.