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Old 10-27-2009, 12:05 PM   #64
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Re: *The Official "Full Circle" Reviews Thread*

Quote: (Originally Posted by Icedmofo) Just finished listening through the whole album.

I'm a little disappointed in a lot of the songs lyrically, they just seem weak compared to even alter bridge, there's just no finesse to it like Stapp used to be able to write, the lyrics don't flow at all, and in some cases it's downright awkward.


i understand what you mean. perhaps here is an article that may help us to understand why Scott lyrical style has change.

[b]Creed is Reunited and Renewed
The Ledger October 16 2009
In late 2007 Scott Stapp, the frontman of the rock band Creed, walked into the bathroom of his Boca Raton home, grabbed a razor and did the unthinkable: He shaved his head. His band had split up three years earlier, and ever since Stapp had felt adrift, putting out a poorly received solo album and struggling with his self-confessed appetites for alcohol and painkillers. In 2006 he had become sober, reconnected with his family and rededicated himself to Christianity. But with his trademark long brown locks he looked like the same guy he'd always been.

His wife heard the buzzing electric razor and entered the bathroom, aghast.

"She came in like: 'What are you doing? That's Creed!'" Stapp, 36, recalled during an interview last month at a Japanese restaurant here, several hours before his recently reunited band played the Aaron's Amphitheater. "I said, 'When you look at me, you've got to see me with new eyes.' Now whenever I meet somebody who had ideas about Creed or about me, it's almost like they give me a fresh chance."

Creed's first three albums - "My Own Prison" (1997), "Human Clay" (1999) and "Weathered" (2001) - have sold nearly 25 million copies in the United States and spawned multiple Top 10 hits, including "Higher" and "My Sacrifice." But despite enormous commercial success - or, probably more accurately, because of it - Stapp and his band mates, the guitarist Mark Tremonti, the bassist Brian Marshall and the drummer Scott Phillips, were rock's favorite whipping boys through the late 1990s and early 2000s. Music critics assailed them for being too earnest, too pompous, too attractive, too pop, too derivative of Pearl Jam or just too inescapable. To detractors Creed's resistance to being called a Christian band didn't square with Stapp's spiritually themed lyrics.

If Pearl Jam and Nirvana had worked to subvert the rock-star mythos, Creed's songs, with their churn-and-soar dynamics and self-serious lyrics, and the accompanying videos, many of which featured a brooding Stapp striking blustery poses in leather pants, seemed aimed at restoring it. After the band's split the barbs focused more tightly on Stapp himself, who supplied his tormentors plenty of ammunition. On Thanksgiving 2005 he got into an altercation in a hotel bar with members of the band 311; in February 2006 he was arrested for public drunkenness at Los Angeles International Airport en route to his honeymoon; days later clips from a sex tape featuring him with Kid Rock and several women surfaced on the Internet, scandalizing many of his Christian fans.

All of which makes Creed's reunion - which includes a U.S. tour that wraps up on Tuesday and a new album, "Full Circle" (Wind-Up), due on Oct. 27 - more than the usual sentimental, cash-generating victory lap. It's an attempt at rehabilitation.

"I'm asking all those who've become disenchanted with the band because of me to allow me to reintroduce myself and, with the other guys, show who we really are," Stapp said.

This may not be easy. Creed's omnipresence a decade ago transformed it from just another polarizing band into a symbol, to some, of all that was wrong with a bloated industry in which record labels sought out new artists that reminded them of older artists, pushed their singles relentlessly at radio and - in the years before file sharing crippled CD sales - reaped big financial rewards. Creed's name became an epithet for people looking to denounce excess and conformity in pop music. The band was publicly mocked by, among others, Blink-182's Mark Hoppus, Foo Fighters' Dave Grohl and Limp Bizkit's Fred Durst. The Offspring's Dexter Holland occasionally sported a T-shirt that read, "Even Jesus Hates Creed."

"Jesus probably did hate Creed for a couple years there," Stapp said with a laugh. Wearing a crisp white button-down shirt emblazoned with the words "Rock & Roll Religion," he appeared relaxed but eager to be understood. He admitted that he had grown cocky and defensive back then, but he also pointed out that Creed was an easy target: "We were the biggest band in the United States."

As Creed's previous tour wound down in 2002, even fans started revolting. Following a calamitous show outside Chicago the band was sued by four ticketholders who claimed Stapp was too intoxicated to perform. The case was eventually dismissed, but the public embarrassment stung. Stapp was drinking heavily during this time but said he was also suffering side effects from the steroid prednisone, which he took to combat voice problems. Regardless, his band mates blamed him for their travails.

"We were trying to keep our heads down, say the right things, do our jobs, and at the same time Scott was being irresponsible," said Tremonti, 35, sitting in a dressing room with Phillips, 36, and Marshall, 36, before Creed's show here.

After that tour Stapp experienced a painful withdrawal from prednisone. The band make a quick, unsuccessful stab at a fourth album, then called it quits.

"It was easy to walk away because it wasn't what we'd envisioned," Tremonti said. "No matter how many records you sell, when you're up there with a target on your head every day it's not fun."

He and Phillips reconnected with Marshall, who had been ousted from Creed in 2000 after persistent clashes with Stapp, and recruited the singer Myles Kennedy to form a new band, Alter Bridge. Stapp, meanwhile, was drinking in binges while working in fits and starts on his first solo album, "The Great Divide" (Wind-Up). The album's producer, John Kurzweg, who also produced the first three Creed albums, described the sessions as a "mess." Years of withering criticism had battered Stapp's self-confidence.

"If he read a review, I'd be like, 'Look, you've got a fan base. Why worry what these people are saying?'" Kurzweg recalled in a phone interview. "But he took it very seriously, and that had an effect on everything, including his writing."

"The Great Divide" flopped, selling fewer than 400,000 copies, according to Nielsen SoundScan, and in the aftermath Stapp endured the arrest and the sex-tape revelations. Rick Canny, who managed Stapp from 2004 through 2006, recognized a conflict within him.

"The person writing those heartfelt, spiritual lyrics was probably 51 percent of his being," Canny said. "The other 49 percent was just a guy who wanted to have a good time, play sports and look at girls. But he felt you had to be one or the other. That led to some destructive behavior."

In late 2006 Stapp broke his hip in a fall, then bottomed out. At the Japanese restaurant he pointed to a tattoo on his forearm that read, "11-18-06."

"That was the day my wife had had enough," he said. "I had to face that if I don't make a change, I'm losing my family. I'm losing everything." Stapp, who has two children, quit drinking and drugs, he said, and began thinking about mending fences in Creed. The other members, who had found middling success with Alter Bridge, were initially reluctant.

"He'd done so much damage to my life, I didn't want to speak his name for a long time," Tremonti said. "Since I was 11, this is all I've worked for. I finally built up a huge band and watched it destroyed by one person."

Nonetheless, in late 2008 he, Phillips and Marshall met with Stapp, who apologized for his past misbehavior. The reconciliation was satisfying, and given the more moderate scale of their separate projects, the idea of resurrecting Creed was appealing. "When you go from two or three people on a bus and nice hotels to everybody on the same bus, staying at a Holiday Inn and playing a club that has a closet for a dressing room," Phillips said, "you sort of long for those days when you had nice catering."

According to Tremonti and Paul Geary, who manages both Alter Bridge and Creed, Alter Bridge had also taken on significant debt, which a Creed tour would help alleviate. Geary also recognized that Creed's superstardom was a precious commodity.

"Over the last few years new bands that go from zero to multiplatinum are scarce," he said. "Technology has changed everything. It's making it more difficult to permeate publicly. It makes bands like Creed that much more valuable."

"Full Circle" has some surprising moments: the title track's swampy acoustic guitar line; the infectious, glistening chorus to "Rain." But as Tremonti acknowledged, the members didn't make wholesale changes to Creed's signature sound; they just gave it a "face-lift." Several new songs bear the muscular riffs, soaring choruses and booming, throaty baritone characteristic not only of past Creed hits but also those of bands that have populated rock radio in Creed's absence, like Nickelback, Daughtry and 3 Doors Down. [b]
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