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Chase · 08-13-2006, 03:03 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by bilal) Chase....your right......it seems to me that know Hizbollah is capitalising on the situation and is winning the support of not just lebnese people but muslims world over.......but what is making it easy for them is the aggression of Israel's response.....so far 1000 civiialins have been murdered by Israel.......and i think it is only working in favour of Hizbollah.....i never said that i suppoort Hizbollah or any network that have been accused of terrorism...but i was just pointing out that the situations built by Israel and US is never in favour of peace.......it seems that are only adding to the terrorism rather than sincerly trying to get rid of it.......these deaths of civilians wont be forgotten.......

Israel made worth the death of its 2 captured soldiers by destroying a whole city.........killing 1000 civiilans....but still ...no one will question the death of 1000 murdered civilllians but only the 2 soldiers captured...its only because Israel...with its force and support....can show the worth of theri lives....where as no one in the neighbouring country can prove the worth of 1000s of civillians and devestated lives.......it seems to me that only voice heard in the present time is the voice of force ....i wonder if after 100 years.....what the people of that time will think of us......what ever they would think....they will never say that we were CIVILISED...... lol...... cause we still live in time...where might is right......where 2 lives worth more than 1000 cuase one group can prove it with force.........

a bit of HISTORY OF SYRIA and LEBNON

France occupied the area now consisting Syria and lebnon in world war I ( occupy is probably not the right word......i should say won the ground....cause the concept of nation and independence is prety recent one.....i should say that my country PAKISTAN got independence from British rule in 1947...much after world war II.....can u believe it...the worlds most reconginsed democracy was an occupier of a foreing country only50 years back!!!!!......so this concept of national independence and rigts is only a recent one........just we are born in this time, we cannot assume it to be there from the inception.....) so it was under french rule till world war II till france got itself captured by Germany.........british fearing French stronghold over this area......and fearing that it might go deeper into egypt........attacked beriut too.....but could;nt captrue it........at the end of the World war II in 1948....french with drew........from lebnon.....

1948.....same year....when Israel started occupying palestinian territories......hence starting the ever so ugly conflict......lebnon.....presided by a Christian president......was not in fovour and attacked the newly errected jewish county but failed........but lebnon got filled with millions of palestinain refugeess.....

your question of SYrian occupation being Muslim???

i quote it from wikipedia site......that tells that Syria was run by Catholic administration....w.hich was fearing that lebnon might fall in the hands of palestinian domination.....and attaked to save the administartion that was pro israel......so you will see...that Syrian occupation of Lebnon....was not islamic ....but Anti Islamic......influence mostly by Jewish sentiments...

source = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanon

about the maronites being non-muslims...primarily jews..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maronite

and i ask you how many times did Israel itself attacked and occupied lebnon...... first in 1978, but was asked to withdraw by United nations security council....... but attacks kept coming from the palestinan forces from lebnon grounds...so Israel again attacked lebnon in 1982 ........sound similar to current crisis too.....anyways.....this secound occupation by ISRAEL was ordered by Areil shron himself........and was a bloody attack that killed 1000s of innocent people.....some i quote

Sabra and Shatila massacre .....in sep 1982 that attacked the Palestinian refugee camps.......it is estimated that upto 3500 palestinian refugess where massacred by the israeli invadors source " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_and_Shatila_massacre

areil shron is still accused of leding such attack and for the masacres it commited.......still no justice

that led to the formaiton of HIZBOLLAH...in the year 1982.......so your claim of Syrain occupation being Muslim is wrong....infact......you totally ignored the presence of Israel in all the syrian occupations...and latter attacks and time to time Israeli occupations.....not to mention the massacres .........and what really led to the formation of HIZbollah....and many countless factions fighting for the rights.......what made them terrrorist......Israel last withdrew from lebnon onlly in the year 2000.........so lebnon is not a new place for israel........

your picture of Cedar Revolution

i cant really figure out how Cedar Revolution in the year 2005, is in your point patriotic....when it is blamed that mossad was responsible for it.........i quote from wikipedia site

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanon

about some pictures you posted.....its totally out of context........its just again some misconceptions about Islam and labbelliing every islamic leader to be not following the Islam and being at terrorist....as i said before......USA and Israel wont have peace with muslim world by killing each and every one of us who they dont like.....it dont work like that......its a bitter deal.....kill one.....and get 2 for free........i dont totall regect you view of some false leaders portraying islam wrongly to the people....i hope you have watched the movie SYRIANA of george Cloney........i agree wit hte movie........ but these picture are just besided the point.......i dont want to post much pictures in against those you posted

Syria is an Islamic country that occupied another primarily Islamic nation (Lebanon). Where was the Hezbollah saviors when Syria fostered the assassination of a beloved former Lebanese prime minister? I sure as hell didn't see them shooting rockets across the border into Syria. They didn't seem to put up much of a fight. Assad and his father never gave a shit about Lebanon and that's the sad truth.

08-13-2006, 03:03 PM	#39
Chase USER INFO » Status: Wound Up Posts: 1,160 Joined: Oct 2004 Currently: Offline	Re: More Conflict Quote: (Originally Posted by bilal) Chase....your right......it seems to me that know Hizbollah is capitalising on the situation and is winning the support of not just lebnese people but muslims world over.......but what is making it easy for them is the aggression of Israel's response.....so far 1000 civiialins have been murdered by Israel.......and i think it is only working in favour of Hizbollah.....i never said that i suppoort Hizbollah or any network that have been accused of terrorism...but i was just pointing out that the situations built by Israel and US is never in favour of peace.......it seems that are only adding to the terrorism rather than sincerly trying to get rid of it.......these deaths of civilians wont be forgotten....... Israel made worth the death of its 2 captured soldiers by destroying a whole city.........killing 1000 civiilans....but still ...no one will question the death of 1000 murdered civilllians but only the 2 soldiers captured...its only because Israel...with its force and support....can show the worth of theri lives....where as no one in the neighbouring country can prove the worth of 1000s of civillians and devestated lives.......it seems to me that only voice heard in the present time is the voice of force ....i wonder if after 100 years.....what the people of that time will think of us......what ever they would think....they will never say that we were CIVILISED...... lol...... cause we still live in time...where might is right......where 2 lives worth more than 1000 cuase one group can prove it with force......... a bit of HISTORY OF SYRIA and LEBNON France occupied the area now consisting Syria and lebnon in world war I ( occupy is probably not the right word......i should say won the ground....cause the concept of nation and independence is prety recent one.....i should say that my country PAKISTAN got independence from British rule in 1947...much after world war II.....can u believe it...the worlds most reconginsed democracy was an occupier of a foreing country only50 years back!!!!!......so this concept of national independence and rigts is only a recent one........just we are born in this time, we cannot assume it to be there from the inception.....) so it was under french rule till world war II till france got itself captured by Germany.........british fearing French stronghold over this area......and fearing that it might go deeper into egypt........attacked beriut too.....but could;nt captrue it........at the end of the World war II in 1948....french with drew........from lebnon..... 1948.....same year....when Israel started occupying palestinian territories......hence starting the ever so ugly conflict......lebnon.....presided by a Christian president......was not in fovour and attacked the newly errected jewish county but failed........but lebnon got filled with millions of palestinain refugeess..... your question of SYrian occupation being Muslim??? i quote it from wikipedia site......that tells that Syria was run by Catholic administration....w.hich was fearing that lebnon might fall in the hands of palestinian domination.....and attaked to save the administartion that was pro israel......so you will see...that Syrian occupation of Lebnon....was not islamic ....but Anti Islamic......influence mostly by Jewish sentiments... source = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanon about the maronites being non-muslims...primarily jews..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maronite and i ask you how many times did Israel itself attacked and occupied lebnon...... first in 1978, but was asked to withdraw by United nations security council....... but attacks kept coming from the palestinan forces from lebnon grounds...so Israel again attacked lebnon in 1982 ........sound similar to current crisis too.....anyways.....this secound occupation by ISRAEL was ordered by Areil shron himself........and was a bloody attack that killed 1000s of innocent people.....some i quote Sabra and Shatila massacre .....in sep 1982 that attacked the Palestinian refugee camps.......it is estimated that upto 3500 palestinian refugess where massacred by the israeli invadors source " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabra_and_Shatila_massacre areil shron is still accused of leding such attack and for the masacres it commited.......still no justice that led to the formaiton of HIZBOLLAH...in the year 1982.......so your claim of Syrain occupation being Muslim is wrong....infact......you totally ignored the presence of Israel in all the syrian occupations...and latter attacks and time to time Israeli occupations.....not to mention the massacres .........and what really led to the formation of HIZbollah....and many countless factions fighting for the rights.......what made them terrrorist......Israel last withdrew from lebnon onlly in the year 2000.........so lebnon is not a new place for israel........ your picture of Cedar Revolution i cant really figure out how Cedar Revolution in the year 2005, is in your point patriotic....when it is blamed that mossad was responsible for it.........i quote from wikipedia site http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanon about some pictures you posted.....its totally out of context........its just again some misconceptions about Islam and labbelliing every islamic leader to be not following the Islam and being at terrorist....as i said before......USA and Israel wont have peace with muslim world by killing each and every one of us who they dont like.....it dont work like that......its a bitter deal.....kill one.....and get 2 for free........i dont totall regect you view of some false leaders portraying islam wrongly to the people....i hope you have watched the movie SYRIANA of george Cloney........i agree wit hte movie........ but these picture are just besided the point.......i dont want to post much pictures in against those you posted Syria is an Islamic country that occupied another primarily Islamic nation (Lebanon). Where was the Hezbollah saviors when Syria fostered the assassination of a beloved former Lebanese prime minister? I sure as hell didn't see them shooting rockets across the border into Syria. They didn't seem to put up much of a fight. Assad and his father never gave a shit about Lebanon and that's the sad truth.