[Krisoz26]

To say that Creed got back for money is just stupid. Bands make money from tours mainly they have tickets for like $10. Hardly going too rake it in with that.

As for never playing together I think Mark didn't realise how hard it would be too leave so much history behind school mates kids friends with each other etc. STP, Soundgarden have had similar backflips history/friendship is important these days

The main problem is Windup they don't seem to understand that things have changed now. It's like they just thought the name Creed would sell no promos is needed

ATM we have had alot of radio interviews with Slash, Mertallica etc to get their tours known nothing for Creed beforte their album. But Both of them have said how hard tours and cd's are hard to sell these days if big bands like them struggle to sell them Windup need to put more effort in.

Full circle is a great album I play them on random and it fits nicely in the collection. WInd up need to go for the next album