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Canuckfish · 10-03-2006, 09:25 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by RalphyS) OK, so omnipotence is out of the window, in the dictionary it says omnipotence means having unlimited power, but we have assessed that god cannot contradict himself, therefore there are limits to his power.

Show me a dictionary definition that says unlimited power means the ability to do anything. Self-contradiction is not a power, it is a weakness.

Quote: (Originally Posted by RalphyS) If in the beginning there was only God and god was good, why create a possibility for evil to arise?

For a reason which is perfectly sufficient for Him

Quote: (Originally Posted by RalphyS) If he is so prevelant than we wouldn't be having this discussion... ...surely there would be no such thing as non-believers.

Now this is where we agree. There isn't any such thing.

"The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.
For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools

(Romans 1: 18 - 22)

10-03-2006, 09:25 AM	#44
Canuckfish USER INFO » Status: Illusion Posts: 17 Joined: Sep 2006 Currently: Offline	Re: I found this interesting. Quote: (Originally Posted by RalphyS) OK, so omnipotence is out of the window, in the dictionary it says omnipotence means having unlimited power, but we have assessed that god cannot contradict himself, therefore there are limits to his power. Show me a dictionary definition that says unlimited power means the ability to do anything. Self-contradiction is not a power, it is a weakness. Quote: (Originally Posted by RalphyS) If in the beginning there was only God and god was good, why create a possibility for evil to arise? For a reason which is perfectly sufficient for Him Quote: (Originally Posted by RalphyS) If he is so prevelant than we wouldn't be having this discussion... ...surely there would be no such thing as non-believers. Now this is where we agree. There isn't any such thing. "The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse. For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools (Romans 1: 18 - 22)