They have no argument, though. The people there are VERY ignorant. They think that Creed broke into the music scene in 1999. Also the whole argument is an attempt to give another reason why Creed "sucks". Any one that knows a thing or two about music knows that crappy artists can't sell for crap in other countries. That's another reason why rap is crap, but that's beside the point. They are incorrect. Creed sells a lot around the world.