[titan9]

The lack of sleep must have made me say "the mainstream" hated Creed. What I meant was that, after WAWO, a lot of people hated Creed. Not enough to make a big difference in sales, but enough to make it quite apparent. Some of the same people who like bands like Puddle of Crud and Nickelback hate(d) Creed. If you go to any other music forum outside of here, you'll come across that. It's not just those who "hate" mainstream music that hated Creed; those who also liked a lot of mainstream rock music(3DD, Nickelback, Staind etc.) just hated Creed. That was pretty much what I meant, and I phrased that wrong upon further review(I rarely re-read my posts, though, so that explains why I did not catch that). Obviously, enough of the mainstream liked Creed, or else they wouldn't have sold so many albums. Same goes for other artists(see Britney Spears, Nsync etc).