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Higher_Desire · 03-07-2004, 05:07 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Sincirr) LOL

I wont be reading it too soon for the following reasons:

Mormon's believe that Jesus and Lucifer are brothers.

In the beginning of mormonism, they belived that there was a celestial war, where some of the celestial beings fought, and others stayed neutral, the ones that stayed neutral were cursed to be born on earth with black skin, the dark skin being refered to as the Mark of Cain, and a curse. Cursed with black skin eh? Now they let them in their churches. They never used to.

They also belive that when a hard working mormon man dies, he get's his own planet, to have as much celestial sex with as many god-women as he likes, to procreate his planet.

They wont tell U that to your face though.

That is why I wont read the book...though I have read the first page and ALREADY there is a contradiction with the bible.

What also drives me nuts is that they believe that the bible is an apostate writing, but they claim to follow it? bah!

If U read the holy bible and follow it, dont read theirs till you know yours well.

Wow. Sincirr, I'm afraid you are HORRIBLY mistaken.

1. Yes. Lucifer and Jesus are brothers, but your picture is a bit blurred. In the beginning, God wanted to send someone to earth to guide the people. Lucifer said that if God sent him, everyone would do the right thing and return to live with God. Jesus said that people would have their agency, and would be tested to be sure they were worthy of living in Heaven again. That's the idea God wanted. That is when the war in heaven broke out. 1/3 of the spirits chose to follow Lucifer, and 2/3 follow Jesus. Those 1/3 that followed Lucifer will never be able to gain physical bodies or come to earth to be born, because they were escorted out of heaven and cut off from the presence of God. That is when Lucifer became Satan, or the fallen angel.

2. There was no "cursing of black skin" in heaven. When people on earth fell away, it says their "skin was darkened," yet it does not mean literally. It is an expression. Blacks were never not allowed to join the church, but it was not until the 1940s when they were allowed to hold the Priesthood.

3. Where in the heck did you hear that Mormon men get their own planet to have sex on with all the women they want?

That is ludacris and is in no way taught. What is taught is that depending on what type of life you lived depends on where you get to go in heaven, being the Celestial, Terrestrial, or Telestial Kingdom, or to Hell. Telestial Kingdom is believed to be like earth, and where people who have not had the oppertunity to learn of Christ go to learn, and eventually progress. The Celestial is the highest, and Terrestrial is in between. When you die, you can live with your family again. Spouse, children, parents, siblings, extended family, etc. You don't get your own friggin' planet. Sex is believed to be for the sole purpose of procreation. One of the single-most important and powerful abilities humans have.

4. What on the first page of the BoM contradicts the Bible?

5. The Bible is NOT an apostate writing. The 8th article of faith states: "We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly. We also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God." Biblical teachings are extremly important. The Bible is a record of the beginning of the world, how God operated, the life and death of Christ, all in the old world. The Book of Mormon is the account of Christ in the new world, after his ressurection and coming to the Americas. The BoM and Bible go hand in hand. One is not better than the other. Both are used in teaching.

All anti-mormons use the same old tired arguments. It is best to get your facts straight and, more importantly, KNOW THE TEACHINGS before you bring accusations. I guarantee you that you do not have a vast enough knowledge of the religion to claim what you do. FYI - Course of study this year in Institute... The Old Testament.

Please get your facts straight. What other accusations do you have?

H-D

03-07-2004, 05:07 AM	#18
Higher_Desire USER INFO » Status: Found Peace Posts: 8,631 Joined: Apr 2003 Currently: Offline	Quote: (Originally Posted by Sincirr) LOL I wont be reading it too soon for the following reasons: Mormon's believe that Jesus and Lucifer are brothers. In the beginning of mormonism, they belived that there was a celestial war, where some of the celestial beings fought, and others stayed neutral, the ones that stayed neutral were cursed to be born on earth with black skin, the dark skin being refered to as the Mark of Cain, and a curse. Cursed with black skin eh? Now they let them in their churches. They never used to. They also belive that when a hard working mormon man dies, he get's his own planet, to have as much celestial sex with as many god-women as he likes, to procreate his planet. They wont tell U that to your face though. That is why I wont read the book...though I have read the first page and ALREADY there is a contradiction with the bible. What also drives me nuts is that they believe that the bible is an apostate writing, but they claim to follow it? bah! If U read the holy bible and follow it, dont read theirs till you know yours well. Wow. Sincirr, I'm afraid you are HORRIBLY mistaken. 1. Yes. Lucifer and Jesus are brothers, but your picture is a bit blurred. In the beginning, God wanted to send someone to earth to guide the people. Lucifer said that if God sent him, everyone would do the right thing and return to live with God. Jesus said that people would have their agency, and would be tested to be sure they were worthy of living in Heaven again. That's the idea God wanted. That is when the war in heaven broke out. 1/3 of the spirits chose to follow Lucifer, and 2/3 follow Jesus. Those 1/3 that followed Lucifer will never be able to gain physical bodies or come to earth to be born, because they were escorted out of heaven and cut off from the presence of God. That is when Lucifer became Satan, or the fallen angel. 2. There was no "cursing of black skin" in heaven. When people on earth fell away, it says their "skin was darkened," yet it does not mean literally. It is an expression. Blacks were never not allowed to join the church, but it was not until the 1940s when they were allowed to hold the Priesthood. 3. Where in the heck did you hear that Mormon men get their own planet to have sex on with all the women they want? That is ludacris and is in no way taught. What is taught is that depending on what type of life you lived depends on where you get to go in heaven, being the Celestial, Terrestrial, or Telestial Kingdom, or to Hell. Telestial Kingdom is believed to be like earth, and where people who have not had the oppertunity to learn of Christ go to learn, and eventually progress. The Celestial is the highest, and Terrestrial is in between. When you die, you can live with your family again. Spouse, children, parents, siblings, extended family, etc. You don't get your own friggin' planet. Sex is believed to be for the sole purpose of procreation. One of the single-most important and powerful abilities humans have. 4. What on the first page of the BoM contradicts the Bible? 5. The Bible is NOT an apostate writing. The 8th article of faith states: "We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly. We also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God." Biblical teachings are extremly important. The Bible is a record of the beginning of the world, how God operated, the life and death of Christ, all in the old world. The Book of Mormon is the account of Christ in the new world, after his ressurection and coming to the Americas. The BoM and Bible go hand in hand. One is not better than the other. Both are used in teaching. All anti-mormons use the same old tired arguments. It is best to get your facts straight and, more importantly, KNOW THE TEACHINGS before you bring accusations. I guarantee you that you do not have a vast enough knowledge of the religion to claim what you do. FYI - Course of study this year in Institute... The Old Testament. Please get your facts straight. What other accusations do you have? H-D __________________ Today I'm gonna try a little harder Gonna make every minute last longer Gonna learn to forgive and forget 'Cause we don't have long Gonna make the most of it Today I'm gonna love my enemies Reach out to somebody who needs me Make a change, make the world a better place 'Cause tomorrow could be one day too late --lyrics from "One Day Too Late" by Skillet from their new album "Awake"