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Chase · 03-07-2006, 04:15 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Ana4Stapp) http://today.reuters.com/News/newsAr...HAN-PRISON.xml

Another example of the stable Afghanistan

And yes bilal- after the Soviets were turned out of Afghanistan, for example, no help was forthcoming for the devastated country, and 'chaos' made it possible for the Taliban to come to power.

Indeed, Osama bin Laden was an obvious 'protege' of the west, which was 'happy' to support his fighters in the struggle for Afghanistan against U.S.S.R. , in the Cold War days.

So... now America and its allies in West are seeing the consequences of their actions in the past.

In 1979 the Soviets invaded Afghanistan. However, it was not until 1984 that Osama bin Laden actually made an impact. He started Maktab al-Khadamat (MAK) ("Office of Order" in English). It was not a militant group, but instead it funneled money to Afghan fighters. While some people accuse Pakistan and the United States... there hasn't been any substantial proof to put any truth to this claim. The U.S. only sent aid to Afghan fighters... not Osama bin Laden's financial network. If any money went to MAK it was more than likely through indirect means. Upon Soviet withdrawal bin Laden split from MAK and established the militant group Al Qaeda. Therefore, for you to say that the United States directly funded bin Laden is baseless. Besides, bin Laden had was born into an extremely wealthy Saudi family with immense connections... bin Laden could have very easily established a militant network without any American dollars... and he did so in the very last stages of the Soviet war in Afghanistan. Bin Laden's status as a militant leader wasn't established until the war was about 95% finished. So... accusing the U.S. of funding a non-existent Arab terror network and a millionaire Saudi doesn't seem plausible.

03-07-2006, 04:15 PM	#152
Chase USER INFO » Status: Wound Up Posts: 1,160 Joined: Oct 2004 Currently: Offline	Re: "Americans kill dozens of prisoners" Quote: (Originally Posted by Ana4Stapp) http://today.reuters.com/News/newsAr...HAN-PRISON.xml Another example of the stable Afghanistan And yes bilal- after the Soviets were turned out of Afghanistan, for example, no help was forthcoming for the devastated country, and 'chaos' made it possible for the Taliban to come to power. Indeed, Osama bin Laden was an obvious 'protege' of the west, which was 'happy' to support his fighters in the struggle for Afghanistan against U.S.S.R. , in the Cold War days. So... now America and its allies in West are seeing the consequences of their actions in the past. In 1979 the Soviets invaded Afghanistan. However, it was not until 1984 that Osama bin Laden actually made an impact. He started Maktab al-Khadamat (MAK) ("Office of Order" in English). It was not a militant group, but instead it funneled money to Afghan fighters. While some people accuse Pakistan and the United States... there hasn't been any substantial proof to put any truth to this claim. The U.S. only sent aid to Afghan fighters... not Osama bin Laden's financial network. If any money went to MAK it was more than likely through indirect means. Upon Soviet withdrawal bin Laden split from MAK and established the militant group Al Qaeda. Therefore, for you to say that the United States directly funded bin Laden is baseless. Besides, bin Laden had was born into an extremely wealthy Saudi family with immense connections... bin Laden could have very easily established a militant network without any American dollars... and he did so in the very last stages of the Soviet war in Afghanistan. Bin Laden's status as a militant leader wasn't established until the war was about 95% finished. So... accusing the U.S. of funding a non-existent Arab terror network and a millionaire Saudi doesn't seem plausible.