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Old 06-25-2005, 03:52 PM   #5
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Quote: Jester is bringing up an opposite view from what people here on the board normally practice. "

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accusing Jester of being, saying, and doing things without even knowing him as a person. All Jester is doing is posting up arguments for YOU PEOPLE to think about. Just because he’s posting opposite view points doesn’t mean he is wrong and doesn’t mean he is right.
No, Jester has proven time and time again he is not interested in meaningful discussion, and by the looks of your attitude, neither are you. It is not a false accusation to call Jester a Nazi, because most of his posts reflect Nietzsche philosophy, I am sorry the truth disturbs you. Read Nietzsche for yourself. Based on the pattern of history, this kind of anti-humanism has begun with the slaughter of the unborn. Catholics are next on the hit list. Look at the anti-Catholic movement in America. It’s pre-WWII Germany all over again.
Quote: Now when people say Jester posts comments and then “runs away”. I’m sorry I thought FAMILY was way more important than posting on a BBS. I’m 2 weeks away from giving birth and Jester and I went to SoCal to take our daughter to Disneyland to spend time with her. You know.. HE DOES HAVE A LIFE OFF THE BBS.
He has time to make inflammatory and insulting posts, but no time to be accountable or back up his lies??

Quote: (Ohh BTW to the comment of why not just adopt kids in Africa that have HIV…… Do you know how much it is to adopt children? Before I got pregnant… Since I have really bad pregnancies and High Risk, etc. etc. Just in California the base price is somewhere around $10,000.00 just to be considered to adopt a child.

You mean to buy one in the black market. Move to Canada, you get money from the Children’s Family Services

Quote: Also, why would two people get married to end up not having sex?

What does that have to do with anything? Are you crazy or what? Maybe you are referring to Natural Family Planning, where the couple is continent for 4 days a month. BTW, couples who use contraception have a 50% divorce rate. Couples who practice NFP have a divorce rate of 3%.

Quote: Are you trying to say that Mary never got jiggie after giving birth to your savoir Jesus Christ?

This kind of statement reflects ignorance and bigotry on your part.

Quote: If condoms HELP prevent the spread of sexually transmitted disease with CONSENDING ADULTS, why no use them?

Now your being ridiculous. Look at the blaring evidence. Every place on the planet where condoms are introduced the unwanted pregnancy rate and diseases skyrocket. How many studies and statistics would it take to convince you?

Okay.. so Jester just denounces Christianity. Why on God’s Green Earth should You really care. Jester has become educated and has himself become an Atheist. So, do you assume that because he is an Atheist that I’m now one too? Are you people that closed minded.?. [/color]

No, he does not just denounce christianity, he constantly insults it and others. Reading a few books by modern atheists does not make him educated.

NakedSmurf got banned, and he came back as Anarkist. Duh! Hello? I come here to discuss faith/religion. That is the name of the forum in case you didn’t notice. I did not come to discuss non-faith and anti-religion with over-grown children who don't know how to communicate.

Quote: Now you might say, Ohh he’s now an Atheist – he’s now a Bad Parent. Excuse Me? You don’t know Jester and You Don’t know ME. By all the posts I’ve read (and let’s just say, I read almost every single one of your posts back and forth) You accuse and Judge without even knowing. Now when it comes to religious Ideas, yeah Jester is stating his findings so one can assume ideas. Same with you. You post your web-links, but then you go on to bash Jester and bash other authors that are backing up these IDEAS.

You mean the silly tantrums of the atheist guru Richard Carrier that got flattened by Dave Armstrong? Studies in Flew's Justification of His Change of Mind and the Predictable Reaction of Atheists He ran away from that in a hurry. I don't know why he didn't delete the embarrassing post.


Now that is a subject worth debating. Truth can never be relative or subjective. And you know a tree by its fruits. Like the fruits of atheism. Hitler, Stalin, Mao… the list goes on. Great contributors to humanity, eh? And your dead wrong. There are those who know the right beliefs from the wrong belifs. The right ones serve and elevate humanity, the wrong ones do nothing or do damage. Without a standard by which to judge good and evil, there IS NO good and evil, and with no good and evil, your adhering to any sort of standards except what makes you FEEL good is absurd. Your assumption that no one really knows what's the right belief from the wrong belief is the basis for secular humanism, which is a false religion being shoved down throats of kids in most public schools.

Quote: I know that since I was raised Sudo-Christian, Most Christians believe you can only go to heaven if you are baptized and believe in Jesus (son of God), and that you do “good-works”, etc. etc. But does one really know? Come on, if someone says YES, you need a spanking.

That means you are anti-Christian. Pseudo-Christian? You mean post-Christian. You admit to being like a plant that has had very little water. For someone who went to college I would think you could spell "sudo" properly.

Quote: One doesn’t need to believe in a religion to have MORAL Values. There are many people present day as well in the past who were not religious and had moral values. Isn’t there a golden rule that says, “Do onto others as you would have them do onto you.” Or are you trying to say that only Christian people (or shall I say on Catholics) have moral values.???

Historically speaking, all moral values have Christian origins. Having moral values without the Christian origins of moral values is like seeing a sled travel after it has gone down a hill, but not seeing the hill. Then you say, “Look at that sled going on its own power.” It doesn't mean others can't have moral values. None ever said they could not. You need a spank for inventing non-existing arguments.

It is absurd to have moral values without a standard to go by. That standard is God. The only other standard left is ultimatley determined by the state. The glaring facts of history have proven this over and over again. If it is up to the individual to decide what is moral without any standard to go by, then you have relativism, which does not nor cannot work for the betterment of humanity. BTW, Catholicism is the only religion that acknowledges the existence of truths outside of herself. Gandi had many truths, and was a great moral leader, but I do not ascribe to what Hinduism teaches.

Quote: Now to these people saying that Jester is a NAZI. What are you smoking? Jester is not all of the things you are trying to accuse him of being. i.e. Racist, Bigot, anti-semite, blah blah blah. Wanting to kill children with AIDs, etc. etc. It just shows sheer ignorance and it’s fully showing YOUR hatred - to people who are different or believe different or think different than YOU.

See above. It is Nazi/Planned Parenthood operating in the UN promoting condoms and INDIRECTLY spreading diseases. THE SYSTEM HAS FAILED.

Quote: Secondly, I didn’t think a Nazi would marry someone who was outside of the box of being - white of German or clean European decent, Hetero-Sexual, Christian, with Blonde hair, Blue eyes, and Doesn’t have an opinion. So, maybe you should rethink that statement. Considering for what I AM. So, please take your Nazi Regime and leave the room, because you of accusing people of being things and name calling is OUT OF STYLE.

Since when does a philosophy have anything to do with physical appearance? Anarkist comes in here with insulting inflammatory remarks, and when he gets back a tiny taste of his own medicine, he whines and you come in here with guns blazing. You need a spank too.

Quote: I think I first got kicked off this board for less than everything people are doing on this thread. I called someone a female dog. No REAL personal attack just a small name. Where as you are flat out assuming, demeaning, and name calling to a high degree on more than one post.
QUOTE: ”**** you, **** you very much.”
You are infantile and hypocritical.
Quote: Now since I actually have a life, yes I’m going to post this and probably not check it for a while. Does that mean I Post and Run? No That means I Post, I want you clowns to think about what I’m saying that if you respond I’ll try to type back. Since I’m dealing with doctor visits, contractions, fatigue, and ohh no, I probably shouldn’t say this, but also dealing with VAGINAL DISCHARGE!!!!! HeHeHe… I probably just made every single guy reading this cringe. But what can I say, It’s all apart of the GREAT CYCLE OF LIFE.
Not me, I was an RPN. All ruckus aside, I hope your delivery goes well.
“There are not over a hundred people in the United States who hate the Catholic Church. There are millions, however, who hate what they wrongly believe to be the Catholic Church, which is, of course, quite a different thing.”

Bishop Fulton J. Sheen

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