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actually, it's probably less than that because stapp was only at around like 300,000 sold according to sound scan.

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Hmm...so more of a 60%-40% kinda situation.

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yeah, if not 70-30

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Yeah... 70/30 sounds like a good thing...
I don't think that creeds split helped that much since the only once who new about AB beeing 3/4 of original Creed was the diehard fans... Atleast that's how I've understud this whole situation

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And also add on the tremonti fans...like me.:D

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From what iv been told from a contact of Ab is that they are not getting droped by wind up, they are trying to get out of the wind up deal since they dont like the record company since all WU want is for creed to reform

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Oh...well....thats not going to happen any time soon. You know, it's kinda like van halen and it gets me thinking. Why could alter bridge just be creed and with a new singer...like the roth/hagar situation? or.......

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Coz creed, Mark never soloed. and they wouldnt have their new fan base. I am very greatful they started from nothing again and have got to where they are. I hate creed, I hate stapps voice, no solos. Mark was creed anyway. he wrote nearly everything.

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wrong, stapp was creed. he wrote most of the stuff.

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i think that if their next album is not better than their first they should be dropped. because if they cant top their first album they probalbly dont have much talent.

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bollocks mate! only thing that made stapp creed is his religious stuff

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his lyrics? first off they are not religous and with out his lyrics it just wouldent be creed.
EDIT: stapp wrote lyrics and mark wrote music. thats how it was most of the time. stapps lyrics made creed. the music helped but stapp could have made his own music.

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Well , what I think it is , is that Stapp is responsible for alot
of the softer , more beautiful-music part of Creed.(Not that Tremonti
can't write beautiful songs , he wrote In Loving Memory , and the
music to One Last Breath , and very many others. But I think the reason
he wrote so much softer ,pop radio-friendly music was because that's
what Stapp wanted.) And that Mark was responsible for more of the
heavier , harder music , (ie Torn , Bullets) and that's why we have so
many people saying that Stapp's debut sounded "just like Creed" , and
also, we have just as many people saying the exact same thing about
Alter Bridge's debut, but pretty much everybody agrees that Stapp's
debut is vastly different from One Day Remains. Well ,Stapp has proved
that he can write harder songs , like Reach Out , Justify ,and Hardway.
And Mark has proven that he can write prettier songs like In Loving Memory, Broken Wings , and Shed My Skin. But Stapp's TGD is definetly softer
and AB's ODR is definetly harder , so that's my theory. With Mark , Brian,
and Flip , and Stapp all consantly contradicting each others' stories ,
and so many lies and half-truths floating around , it's very hard to
determine fact from fiction...

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thanks secret that makes alot of sense. nagpo yeh stapp wrote lyrics, but the lyrics were shit(in my opinion). Without the music there is nothing for the lyrics.

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he did...it's called the great divide...we're seeing just how well that's fairing aren't we?

and on the flipside to that...tremonti could've written his own lyrics...he did (most of anyway, aside from like 3 songs) and it's called one day remains...it's doing better than the great divide.

the second album will be better than the first for odr because it'll be more of a collaboration. the mayfield four albums are great...i can't wait to hear the collaborations of myles and mark.