I agree. I mean, this is serious stuff in terms of the music industry. Creed was the larget band in the world and they've separated. Something fairly serious had to happen. Bands don't just break up on a whim.

Yeah, that's one of those kind of interviews that I'm talking about... I always thought something just wasn't quite right.

Thanks for writing. ;)

Uhm, you started off moaning about me expressing my opinion "too much," then you said "If we don't talk about these things, share how we feel, then how are we supposed to see the full Stapp?"

All I've been saying is that it's good to "talk about these things" and "share how we feel" so that we can see the "full Stapp." Sounds like we both agree on that point. I'm not seeing the problem, here. :confused:

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oh, please... can someone make a smilie of that stupid banana being shot???

velocityidp, I agree with everything you have said thus far. Some people just don't want to think outside the box.

The truth is or could be truth is that the following things could of had a major influence to the seperatation of stapp and mark

-constant hate from the media, some fans and the genral public.

a good example would be just last night, any body here see last nights SNL? They were doing a mock american idol thing and had jason from 98 degees being like him with arms wide open and chest out singing higher. Then they had this voice going like we put up famous pop stars to see how talentless they are.

And mind people here more then not and how many times I have taken shit, that indeed 95% of the hatred of creed IS because of stapp and his cockyness. I mean, when your taking shit from every which way somethings going to give, no matter how much you put into the "hate us or love us" crud.



-The famous chicago incident

There are going to be so many people who will never forgive creed because of that night. and refere to my last point, the fans-hatred.

Think of it this way,

youre in a muti-platnum band, you have a singer that fucks up on stage and as a result some fans friggin SUE you, how would you feel? Think about it. Really, use your brain. You go to court, lawyers and all that non-sence.

-brian re-joing with mark and flip

I'm persoanlly extatic to see them jamming and making music again, nothing could make me more happier.

yea....I have said enough for now...

So, velocityidp how do you think this new band will be perceived?

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[quote=addicted2stapp]Wow, he would roll his eyes when Stapp mentioned that about Jagger? :eek: What's that all about.

Well I should not say with certainty he rolled his eyes - I will say that he looked unsettled, his eyes looked up at the ceiling, he seemed totally disinterested in what Scott was saying - my interpretation was the he was tired of hearing about it - or that Mark was tired of Scott being interviewed instead of the band. does that make sense?

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Uhm, excuse me I wasn't moaning I was pissed off.

Yeah, that's all you've been saying. :rolleyes: Look sorry don't worry I'm not going to express how I feel because we will just start arguing, just forget about it.

Okay then, so let's just drop it. Peace.

If that was pointed at me, I do think outside the box, thank you very much. I have an open mind, I express my emotions and my opinions, if you don't like it, I don't care, deal with it. If that wasn't pointed at me, I apologise, but I got the impression it was.

Yes, that does make plenty of sense. Still strange though, I have only seen few Creed interviews, I guess that doesn't show much, but from the ones I have seen he does look fairly happy, but from your comment, that's not a nice thing to hear, that really sucks, I didn't think Mark would act like that, hmm.

Nope :D

Well ... so much for standing by your friend! What about all the good that Scott has contributed? True ... a lot of people don't like Creed because of Stapp. However, a lot of people do like Creed ... because of Stapp.

I have noticed the same thing. I saw that clip on "Rock's Most Eligible Bachelors." I got the same impression ... either he's sick of hearing about Scott's son, or he's sick of Scott getting the spotlight. That clip has always bothered me.

I am not going to presume to know what Mark was thinking or feeling. I can only speak on what I saw ... and he clearly looked unenthusiastic. I'm sure I will get attacked by the die-hard Mark fans for what I'm about to say (or type) ... but IF this is the case, I think he needs to get over it! Like it or not, the frontman usually gets the most attention.

yeah i dont think he would be jealous of Scott getting the spotlight, i mean he said himself that he's pretty "introverted"

Yeah that's true. I wouldn't say that he needs to get over it, I don't know how much input Mark puts in when Creed are interviewed, but by the sounds of things, it's pretty low. But if Mark does come accross as rolling his eyes or looking unenthusiastic, I have to say that does dissapoint me to read that. These things are easy to pick up and can't be missed, so I was a little taken back when I read that. Didn't think he would show it on camera, thanks for sure.

Could be that he's just somewhat uncomfortable and just comes off that way.

Yeah I guess. You can interpret body communication in so many different ways, I would have to see the video to judge

Mark looks like that in about 95% of the interviews, even when he's alone and when he's talking. That's just his way. He always said, as Dan posted, he doesn't like to be on the spotlight. (except when he's playing live! :D lol )

Oh, that's good to hear, then. Well not good, but better than some people getting the impression that he's unenthusiastic or he was rolling his eyes while Stapp was talking about Jagger, know what I mean?

That's a shame that he's like that

haha there's not a doubt about that!

I can honestly admit that I am not an expert on Mark, but that one clip is certainly odd and it has struck many of us the same way. I don't think it was an intentional look but a look nonetheless and for all I know the way they edit things it could have nothing to do with Scott talking or talking about Jagger or whatever. I can say however that it isn't Mark's best moment on camera and it leaves a lot of room for interpretation. Other interviews - even later on in that same interview Mark appears much different than he did at that moment.

Everytime I have been in the pit, Mark always has this intense look on his face. He has an incredible smile when he does smile. But I think a lot of people look WAY too much into things. Sometimes you grasp at straws to figure out what is going on, but I just think someday it will all resolve itself. They are incredible musicians together and they will be incredible in thier projects as well. I am trying to not take sides here, I see points to both sides really.

I don't think I've been going through this with blinders on, so to speak, just wishing to hear official word (which we all know never came) before accepting the rumors as truth. I know it's "only a band", but Creed and their music have had such an impact on my life; seeing them live on NYE in Philly was one of the most exciting moments in my life. It makes me so depressed to think that a band that has meant so much to so many people might not play together again. I know, we've all heard so many different things; they're just doing solo projects, there's no time frame on this; they may indeed reunite some day, etc. I can't even begin to tell you how sad this makes me, and what makes me even sadder, in a strange kind of way, is seeing how easily most people on this bb and the Pit are taking it and moving on, like it's no big deal, even looking forward to Mark's new band, almost glad that Stapp's not in the picture......maybe I just don't adapt to change very well....I just thought we'd be hearing so much more from Creed in years to come, and the thought of that not happening sickens me. I pray that somehow, whatever happened between the guys, they can put aside their differences and work through them. Mark and Scott started Creed as good friends, making music that changed people's lives. Can they really throw all that away? The friendship? The magical music they created together? Is anyone else having a hard time with this the way I am? Peace.....

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You are DEFENITLY not alone with how you feel, Kim V. I know exactly how you are feeling, and the thought that they might never put out another album, might never tour again and perform together as Creed for their fans, sickens me also. I have said before that I can't imagine my life without Creed, and now that that may be just the case, I can't seem to get my head around it, I really can't, it hasn't sunk in properly because Creed have had such an impact on my life, who I am. And about Creed being "Only a band". I have had family, friends, even enimies say that to me, that they are only a band, but they can't possibly understand. I am an absolutley obssessed Creed fan, and I am proud of it. (I could have a worse obsession). Creed have made me feel more complete about myself, and to know that they might no longer be around, to produce more of their magic, it scares me and I am left feeling empty and hollow. There are days when I think "Holy crap they are no longer a band", I get flashes of reality, and it's just daunting to even think more. This has taken apart of me, it has broke my heart.

But, we DO have their solo projects too look forward too, we have got to see the bright side of this, it did take me ahwile to see it, but now I have, and it's looking better.

You don't know how much I laughed when I read that

i know it that happens from time to time dosent haha

and they say Americans are lazy :laugh:

BELIEVE ME, I am upset over this and wish it was not true. But what is getting all bent out of shape and upset going to do? NOTHING!!!! In the last few months of my life I have had MUCH bigger things to get upset and devestated about trust me! I wish Creed was together as much if not more than a lot of you. They were my saving grace for so many years, and "escape" for me. But I refuse to get myself all bent out of shape over it, my psyche can't take anymore sadness!
I just choose to "go with the flow" what other choice do any of us have anyways? Getting upset and racking our brains over what happened is not going to get them back together. I have and ALWAYS will have a deep burning love and desire for STAPP, that will never change. But I like the rest of the band members as well. They would not of been CREED as we knew it without all of them. So I wish them well and hope they are happy, I have learned that simple things like happiness are precious and so important in life. So if they go on to do seperate things then so be it. Yes it is sad, and it lets me down, I wanted so bad to go to see another tour this year. But that is just not going to happen. Creed has given me so much even if they were around for a short time. The great friendships, the incredible music, the "escape" I will always be grateful to them.

All of this makes me sad too. Creed has brought so much to my life in the last 2 years - great friends, music that makes me feel better and comforts me when I'm down, brings me to new heights of happiness when I'm feeling good and helped me to grow and change as a person. Like Kim V. said, seeing them on NYE in 2002 was one of the best nights of my life. I will cherish and remember that night for as long as I live. So, yes, at times, it makes me sad. But, like Jen, I'm doing my best just to go with the flow and I look forward to their solo projects. I think all of them are awesome but it was Stapp that drew me into the band and I will always follow him. With that, I also plan to buy Mark's cd and if any of them tour, I'll be there. And yes, I hope at some point in the future, they get back together again to create the musical magic that is Creed. More than anything I want them to be happy and healthy.

I know. I now realise that, when I first heard the news, I was devestated, I still am, but not to the extent that I was when I first heard the news. So I mean we can only look forward to what is to come now, the boys can only go forward, and we are all going to be behind them ALL THE WAY!!! :D :jam:

AHH just let tremonti dicover is inner singing voice and the new band will be unstoppable!! MUHAHAA!

Maybe If We Play Scotts Album And Tremontis Album At The Same Time, Theyll Link And It Will Be A Ultimate Creed Album!! Muhahahaa

No

ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

lol it was just the way he said that

yeah, but your way was really funny as well! It reminded of me and my friends! :)

haha why's that?

well... whenever someone tried to make a joke, even if it's funny, we pretend we're all serious and say "no" and don't laugh... so the guy makes a shitty face! hahauhauha

nevermind, we're weirds! heh

lol. Well I'm that way sorta, I always say, "Um, how about no" In a "tone" Whenever someone tries to be funny, or tries to act funny. That's my way of laughing at people j/k. :D

yeah, it's a great one, isn't it? ;)

Aren't we mean friends :laugh: