Re: Who wrote the lyrics for the songs of Creed?
 

Nagpo! Have you seen it? ;) I was going to say that Stapp said that in the sextape... Haven't seen it myself :P He he he...

Re: Who wrote the lyrics for the songs of Creed?
 

IamFilthy... I KNOW WHAT MARK HAVE SAID... But he was controled by Stapp as far as I'm conserned... Look at it this way, when he was with Creed he was controled by Stapp and wasn't aloud to say what he realy wanted. When he was "free from Stapp" he said what he realy wanted to say. I mean, he can write, he's proven that. The songs for ODR wasn't supose to be for AB but for Creed since when he started writing them he hadn't a thought of Creed breaking up.

"Stapp wrote the VAST majority of MOP. Let's face it,...Tremonti is not a good lyricist. He has said so himself along with ODR speaking loudly as well." What the F are you talking abuot... ODR speaking loudly as well? If you think ODR sucks you can't realy like TGD! I mean those lyrics are so lame... He keeps reapeating himself over and over again doesn't he. The lyrics are realy lame and NOT as complex at all as Creeds lyrics were, ODR lyrics are (IMO) more complex and therefor more suiteble as Creed lyrics then TGD.

Re: Who wrote the lyrics for the songs of Creed?
 

Robin, you said that MARK is trying to write to much like Stapp... I'd say the opposite, Stapp is trying to sound to much like Mark...

Re: Who wrote the lyrics for the songs of Creed?
 

Just a note: I did have my previous statement backward. It seems according to Michael Tremonti that Scott did about 90% of the lyrics on the MOP and Mark contributed more lyrics on the other albums. See this thread which has some good conversation regarding this:

http://www.creedfeed.com/community/s...ead.php?t=5560

Take a close look at page 3. Michael (Gabriel) makes a good post describing how two songs were done. He mentions that for Bullets Mark had the entire song music-wise written but had no idea regarding lyrics and how they should be sung. But on One Last Breath, Mark had everything written out - music, melodies, and lyrics - and Scott took Mark's lyrics and rearranged them and added new verses. He finishes his statement by saying that in general they both contributed.

Re: Who wrote the lyrics for the songs of Creed?
 

Thank you, Steve. I knew I read that somewhere, but I couldn't think of where. If Michael Tremonti himself has said that Stapp wrote 90% of the lyrics on MOP....then why do so many people still dispute that? After all, Michael is a trusted source...so why not trust what he has said?

I do agree with IAmFilthy: the lyrics on ODR, as far as I'm concerned, are subpar when compared to the first two Creed albums. The lyrics are a bit too generic and simplistic for my liking. Not everyone will agree with this, and I understand that, but this is the way that I, as an AB fan, feel about it. I really hope that Myles writes most of the lyrics on the next album because, based on ODR, Mark's lyrics do nothing for me. And this coming from a huge Mark fan. I think he's a great guitarist, but an average lyricist. Which is why I'll always prefer Myles or Scott Stapp's lyrics above Mark's. Just personal preference, I guess.

Re: Who wrote the lyrics for the songs of Creed?
 

i saw the 50 second tape. i didint have the volume up though(i didint want my parents to hear lol) but i read in articles he says "its good to be the king". if u wanna see the movie all u have to do is type it in google...

Re: Who wrote the lyrics for the songs of Creed?
 

Mark added a few words and phrases and that's it....he has said that

Re: Who wrote the lyrics for the songs of Creed?
 

I don't think I'll be watching the full version when it surfaces on the net - I couldn't listen to his music without a mental picture of his....well, you know!:D

Re: Who wrote the lyrics for the songs of Creed?
 

Well, there's only one thing I can say after so much evidence supporting my opinion.......

IT'S GOOD TO BE THE KING!!:D

Re: Who wrote the lyrics for the songs of Creed?
 

yeah, even seeing the clip wich had no nudity in it still kind of ruind his music for me. just because of the positions\ he was in with the girl and he was smiling at the camera. i regret seeing that vid.

Re: Who wrote the lyrics for the songs of Creed?
 

im gonna put that qoute on a shirt with a pic of stapp. hillariuose(sp)

Re: Who wrote the lyrics for the songs of Creed?
 

I'm with you! I regret seeing it too.

Re: Who wrote the lyrics for the songs of Creed?
 

I'm glad to say I haven't seen the video and won't watch it because I feel it would taint things even more for me as a fan. Based on what you guys are saying, it's not a pretty sight at all. Just the story alone and the thought of a tape existing has kinda changed the way I listen to the music(the lyrics and vocals, mainly), and the way I look at Stapp. The fact that he seemed so comfortable to be taped doing this stuff just disgusts and disappoints me.

Re: Who wrote the lyrics for the songs of Creed?
 

Me too...:(

Re: Who wrote the lyrics for the songs of Creed?
 

Thanks steve, I did a calc on this and it seems I have to give up, Mark had only written 1,1 songs on MOP... But he did more acording to Gabriel, (The first verse and chorus for Whats This Life For. Chorus for Pity For a Dime. I think thats about it on that cd)

I give you MOP... But what about Human Clay and Weathered? It seems that Mark wrote more then you think/thought but less then I thought...