I heard this from sources close to the band and their management... Scott Stapp has fallen off the deep end. Apparently, he has moved to Hawaii and hasn't been in contact with Tremonti & Phillips in quite some time.
He has also reportedly had several arguments with management over the band's management contract, stating that he feels that "...since the band isn't doing anything at the moment, our manager's cut of our proceeds should be lowered."

Apparently, this pissed off Tremonti who threatened to leave the band if Stapp went throught with his plan. Afterall, it was Jeff Hanson himself who forked over the money and took the biggest risk of his life to get Creed to where they are today.

Finally, as we all know, MTV.COM reported that Tremonti and Phillips are looking for a lead singer for a new side project. Isn't it ironic that Stapp is "putting out a solo album in 2004"? I know Tremonti is as well but something seems wrong here...

They have no touring plans... to remind fans that they are a band, they are releasing a "Greatest Hits" album.... something is wrong here and it seems like Stapp might be the problem.

The reason their web site is never updated is because nobody, whether it be management or the record label wants to deliver bad news. They will only post the stuff you WANT TO HEAR. Hell.. look at Evanesence as a prime example... the two bands share the same record label.... if you go to their web site (www.evanescence.com), it still doesn't mention that their lead guitarist, Ben Moody left the band. On all accounts, the web site looks as if he is still a member of the band.

You can tak all this for what its worth. My sources are real. They have confirmed that Stapp definitely lost it.... he hasn't been in touch with many close to him as of late.

I suppose we will just have to hope and pray that he makes it through whatever it is he is going through. Then maybe after that they can work on getting Creed back together again.

Just my :2cents: :D

"and this concludes today's episode of Inside Edition"

:lol: Dan

We all sometimes forget that Creed are actually made of real people! We all put them up on a pedestal! I know he has been having alot of problems personally and he's taking the wrong avenue in dealing with them! Hopefully he will see this and get better not for us but for himself and his son! :hugs: to Scott! (boy what I wouldn't give to be actually able to do that! I'd probably get carried away) :lol:

I don't know whether your sources are accurate but I do feel that Stapp must be the problem here. I can understand that he wants to make a solo album that is no biggie. His songwriting will improve and guitar playing will improve out of sight. However Tremonti is releasing a solo album plus forming a new band which to me confirms there is something amiss with Scott.

This is pure conjecture of course but isn't that what bulletin boards are for?

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LMFAO!!!! :roll: :lol:

Hawaii huh???? I wonder if the picture posted of stapp this week was from hawaii??? I believe that was miami!!! Or maybe thats miami hawaii????? who knows...Your sources are mistaken my friend!! P.s. Hansen and stapp are best friends....They live very close to each other...

<!--QuoteBegin-reliable_sources+12-04-2003 03:49 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (reliable_sources @ 12-04-2003 03:49 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I heard this from sources close to the band and their management... Scott Stapp has fallen off the deep end. Apparently, he has moved to Hawaii and hasn't been in contact with Tremonti & Phillips in quite some time.
He has also reportedly had several arguments with management over the band's management contract, stating that he feels that "...since the band isn't doing anything at the moment, our manager's cut of our proceeds should be lowered."

Apparently, this pissed off Tremonti who threatened to leave the band if Stapp went throught with his plan. Afterall, it was Jeff Hanson himself who forked over the money and took the biggest risk of his life to get Creed to where they are today.

Finally, as we all know, MTV.COM reported that Tremonti and Phillips are looking for a lead singer for a new side project. Isn't it ironic that Stapp is "putting out a solo album in 2004"? I know Tremonti is as well but something seems wrong here...

They have no touring plans... to remind fans that they are a band, they are releasing a "Greatest Hits" album.... something is wrong here and it seems like Stapp might be the problem.

The reason their web site is never updated is because nobody, whether it be management or the record label wants to deliver bad news. They will only post the stuff you WANT TO HEAR. Hell.. look at Evanesence as a prime example... the two bands share the same record label.... if you go to their web site (www.evanescence.com), it still doesn't mention that their lead guitarist, Ben Moody left the band. On all accounts, the web site looks as if he is still a member of the band.

You can tak all this for what its worth. My sources are real. They have confirmed that Stapp definitely lost it.... he hasn't been in touch with many close to him as of late. [/b][/quote]
:wtf:

Exactly, Jez...just another wannabe who wants to stir up sh*t...I smell a troll :D.

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God,,Bless,,ya dan,,you,,are,,the,,man,,

<!--QuoteBegin-Dogstar+12-04-2003 04:25 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Dogstar @ 12-04-2003 04:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Exactly, Jez...just another wannabe who wants to stir up sh*t...I smell a troll :D. [/b][/quote]
Um yeah.... especially since it's their first post...
No "hey how are ya, I'm so and so and I'm new to the board"....just dove straight into the bullshit.



eta..
No shit... Don't think Stapp woulda flown 654894 hours just to hang out with Tara (even though she is blonde and kinda cute ;) )

Oh, brother, here we go again! Whocares, you're right; those pics taken of him were in Miami as far as I've heard. Does anyone seriously think he'd come all the way from Hawaii to Miami for that party? Can't everyone just leave the guy alone and let him get his life together? He is a human being, he's not perfect (nor are any of us) and he's probably needing some time to get his life in order, yet he also needs to get out and have a little fun (I can't believe people made such a big deal about how he looked in those pics!) Do we all look perfect when a pic is snapped of us? C'mon folks, let the guy live his life!

You tell 'em Kim :clap: ;)

Exactly Kim too many act as we have some ownership of the band and Scott in paricular!

so what if scott is having a rough time.. before u judge him, think about all the times wen u needed a break from everyone. sometimes life throws things at you that ur not expexting, and everyone needs a chance to get their priorities straight.

that being said, i cant wait till tremo's new album... woo buddy. it should be bad ass.

Just to be fair...we don't really know that Scott is having a rough time...

*shrug*

hey, people! you're stupid!!! I believe him!

What you didn't notice is that he meant "Hawaii Ranch", in the inner of Florida. Or maybe a private island around Miami beach! Stapp has a boat and you know it!

Putting jokes aside, I don't know if it's true or not, but it's the most reasonable thing I heard from Stapp since the news were up in the air.
I really don't hope so, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was true.

Marcos, you can't believe everything your read. Besides, this person, who just joined the board starts talking sh*t in his or her first post after all the rumors have started? I think it's a troll, getting just what he wants -- responses from us.

must be from the Limp Bizkit board who needs to take it out on somebody after his "fans" showed Fred what a tosser he is! LOL

Hahaha, LMAO, hide!

No, dogstar! sorry, I may have made my post complicated!

I didn't believe it. I meant it's the most reasonable hoax of all the thing we heard: drugs, alcohol, etc.

I really doubt of that arguing with Jeff Hanson part.

But as for moving to Hawaii... we all know he spends his vacation there.

Hehehe, OK, Marcos, my bad...lost in translation (in my feeble brain, that is!)...No harm, no foul :D.

well we can only hope when Mark's album comes out he does a bit of press and we can find out what is going on!

The only thing this guy (whose name just pisses me off. "Reliable Sources"? Yea, hello) has said that is true is the thing about Wind Up's sites. Creed's and Evanescence's sites are never adequately updated. But of course, that doesn't validate the rest of this guy's post.

Reliable source. Another country heard from. :rolleyes:

:confused:

i just noticed

you cant spell "reliable sources" without B.S.

hmmm good point!

LOL true dat, Danny.

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LMAO :D
You crack me up Dan :lolsign:

Hi there,
I am new here...I have been coming to this site for a while...but never registered for some reason. heh :)
anyway, my friend who lives in florida met scott stapp last week at a football game, and interviewed him. so i don't think he's in hawaii...
as far as i know, he's still in FL, and has a really nice girlfriend. my friend said he's a really cool guy.
well that's all! take care :)

that's cool

welcome to Creed Feed and stick around

Hi There :D Thanks for the update and welcome to the board :)

Great having ya here posting with us!

welcome, newb :newbie:

The original poster has it about half right. Some things he said are correct and some are wrong. One thing for sure, Stapp is losing his mind. Nobody that has anything to do with Creed, including management, wants anything to do with him.

Truth, and you know this because...you supposedly have some reliable sources, you're part the family or the management? I'm really tired of people coming here and posting their BS without a shred of evidence to say where this info came from or how they know this. This is the second or third time you have said some poster was half right. Enough already.

Well, I'll tell you who he's NOT. He's not a friend of Stapp's.

And why the cryptic, he's half right? Are you nonspecific because you're really just full of it?

Exactly anyone could say that most rumours contain a small part of truth, someone who doesn't know the band could say they were half-right and be half-right 100% of the time and not be shown to be a fraud.

Truth you are not helping the cause here if you know anything you should tell us or not post at all.

Some pretty strong accusation there. Here's a bit of wisdom for ya. A chinese proverb, "egg on face starves the stomach."