Hmmm, gotta disagree with you there about Weathered being on par with MOP. I thought Weathered was wildly inconsisent. It has its moments, but it doesn't come close to the vibe of MOP. I mean, Lullaby?? That just doesn't belong on a rock record. MOP record had a much deeper, darker feel to it than Weathered even came close to. MOP was much more raw lyrically and musically and HC was a notch or two down from MOP in my estimation but still rockin' hard enough for me. Weathered went too commercial and poppy for my liking. It was rushed and I think the label wanted to cash in on the Creed formula as long as it could. Overall, it just doesn't move me the way the other two do. I haven't listened to it in a loooooong time.

I seem really seperated from all of you on the topic of Weathered. I love it. I love HC. I love MOP. I love Creed. I am just happy to have thier music and find it un uplifting part of my life. Their music has helped me through some tough times. All 3 albums have. I don't analyze their music to determine what is better than a previous album.


H-D :punk2:

That's great for you, H-D, but not everyone has the same reactions to things. I'm happy to have the music, too, but I like the first two albums better than Weathered. I still like Weathered, but I don't enjoy it as much as the other two CDs.

I have to agree with you there. But I guess rocks bands need to experiment or the albums can get boring if you have the same range of rock over and over again.
I mean Pearl Jam's indifference doesn't belong on a rock album, but the lyrics are what matters most, and there is a very long stretch of meaning between Indifference and Lullaby.

My thoughs on Weathered, I do agree with Dogstar, the lyrics on Weathered didn't come close to MOP or HC, but Weathered was still a very touching album. I do think that it was fairly rushed and you can tell that in the album, compared to other Creed songs. Weathered comes last in my list of Creed albums, and HC the first. To me, my personal experiances Human Clay suits me best, lyrically and musically, that's why I rate it my favourite. But Weathered still is a beautiful album.

Well said, Hayley. I agree. I like it still, just not as much as the others. WGMB still sends chills down my spine.

I have to agree with you on that..... WEATHERED was not their best stuff...the first 2 albums were the best!!!!!

Human Clay hasen't had the staying power with me as the other two albums have. When I first bought it, it was the best thing since sliced bread but I don't find it as consistent as the other two albums, which is strange since that is levelled at Weathered it seems. With Weathered you have Bullets and Freedom Fighter which give you a good kick up the backside, then the truly epic WGMB and Signs is a good rocker although lyrically weak IMHO.

Then its the commercial rock period but some great songs in OLB, MS and SHWM which has an awesome solo. Weathered is something a little different, Hide was something a little different that turned out great while DSD and Lullaby show a willingness to take a risk and the later while not their greatest song does show Scott's range. MOP would be the clear leader if Sister wasen't on the album. Its not bad but its clearly the weakest track IMHO.

I will agree that the lyrics did seem rushed with Weathered and they should have got someone to take the bass duties. Compare it to the 3rd album from basically any other rock group and it stands tall.

I honestly have the feeling this new album could blow Creed's stuff out of the water........I would have never said that a couple of months ago.

I think it shows they (or the label) wanted to cross over to make yet more money.

Ditto.

well you've seen and heard them thanks! :) Dogstar I fail to see how Lullaby could be an income generator considering that it wasen't a single, received no radio play as far as i know and it hasen't really being received that well by the "hardcore" fans. rockgoddess can you tell us if anyone of note was at the showcase? such as Myle's MF4 bandmates, his muscian friends from other notable bands, the guys from Submersed or other friendly bands such as Indorphin, Sevendust etc: I guess someone would have said something if Stapp was there.

I was talking more about DSD...that one was released as a single and played on easy listening, pop stations, light music stations....

:eek: I'm going to pretend I didn't read that...

Are those good or bad chills?

DSD got me really ticked off at Creed. Not only was the music video in a church, but the lyrics sounded very preachy.

Only you would know. :(