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DekWannaBFlea 12-08-2004 03:15 AM

Who's down with the Peppers?
 
Any Red hot chili peppers fan's in here? I can't be the only one....


Album comes out next year, i can't wait.

Dogstar 12-08-2004 04:49 PM

Where's GoodGodGirl? She loves them. I'm a casual fan at best. I think I have one album, Californication, that's about it. I saw them on that tour. I went because the Foo Fighters were opening for them.

fluttergirl 12-08-2004 05:01 PM

I love them, and Ive loved your name since I saw it....

old story- i got in trouble for two songs when i was a kid- one was highway to hell, the other was suck my kiss, man did those spankings hurt, not to mention how many of them there were.... :D
I loved by the way, this was one band who I never thought would grow up, and when i heard that that was what they had done, i was so upset, but i turned out to like it, very much.

Torn Daredevil 12-08-2004 08:55 PM

I'm not a fan, but Flea rocked in the Back to the Future movies!!!

DekWannaBFlea 12-09-2004 03:18 PM

You guys would love By the way......its an awesome album....


Fluttegirl....lol that is funny, i never really got in trouble for music because i mainly liked what my parnets liked. But yeah i started to like the peppers my freshman year in high school, which would be...2000 I think...lol.

Flea is a bad ass though.

I don't expect to find a lot of fans on this site considering they are like Alternative funk....but i thought i would try.

fluttergirl 12-09-2004 03:53 PM

oh, it was ok with them, i just wasnt supposed to do it at aschool, or say, when my grandmother was over...

jango 12-10-2004 07:32 PM

BSSM is a solid album, but I'll get my funk metal from Faith No More, thank you anyways.

DekWannaBFlea 12-11-2004 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by jango
BSSM is a solid album, but I'll get my funk metal from Faith No More, thank you anyways.


Blah ,Faith no more<RHCP

Said Eyes 12-11-2004 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DekWannaBFlea
Blah ,Faith no more<RHCP

No.

I like RHCP's new songs. With Frusciante doing lots of backup vocals.

<3 John Frusciante

Dogstar 12-11-2004 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DekWannaBFlea
Blah ,Faith no more<RHCP

I like Faith No More wayyyy better.

DekWannaBFlea 12-11-2004 06:53 PM

Thats cool, but the red hot chili peppers are like the beatles of our generation.

Torn Daredevil 12-12-2004 01:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DekWannaBFlea
Thats cool, but the red hot chili peppers are like the beatles of our generation.

I don't really like the Beatles, but to call the Red Hot Chili Peppers the Beatles of our generation is crazy. RHCP don't have 1/10 of the fans or the influence the Beatles had in their prime.

LMAO

Dogstar 12-12-2004 02:36 AM

I love the Beatles, grew up listening to them, and I don't really see the comparison with the RHCP being the Beatles of any generation. In what sense did you mean that, DekWannaBFlea?

jango 12-12-2004 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DekWannaBFlea
Thats cool, but the red hot chili peppers are like the beatles of our generation.


HA HA!

Oh, that's hysterical. Wow... that was a good laugh.

Said Eyes 12-12-2004 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DekWannaBFlea
Thats cool, but the red hot chili peppers are like the beatles of our generation.

I feel like I'm repeating myself a bit, but No.

How RHCP can even be thought of in the same sentace boggles the mind. You really must have no idea of what the Beatles did.

DekWannaBFlea 12-12-2004 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Said Eyes
I feel like I'm repeating myself a bit, but No.

How RHCP can even be thought of in the same sentace boggles the mind. You really must have no idea of what the Beatles did.



Its a f'ing methapor, it is clear that the The peppers are not on the same level as the Beatles. They changed the face of music, and inspired a generation. But if you think about it the peppers have basically inspired thousands of musicans. IF you ask any bass player that is about my age who inspired you to become a bassist? and 7 out of 10 times you will get flea. The peppers have been able to incorperate so many different genres of music into their sound that most likely if you like any form of rock and roll you will like the peppers. If fact one of my friend generally hates rock but loves the peppers. WHy is that? Because they have universal appeal like the Beatles did.

The RHCP's also were able to change the face of rock music by fusing funk, punk, alternative, soft rock, rock, Hard rock, classic rock and various other forms of rock into somethingthat works. In fact the basically inspired, rap metal, funk metal and other genres to this day.
Ever heard of:
Primus
Rage Against the Machine
Sugar Ray
311
Sublime ?

They were all insprired by RHCP's.

While ill agree that they aren't nearly on he same scale as the beatles they sure as hell has a pretty big impact on rock as we know it.

DekWannaBFlea 12-13-2004 12:33 PM

Anybody else?

Torn Daredevil 12-13-2004 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DekWannaBFlea
Its a f'ing methapor, it is clear that the The peppers are not on the same level as the Beatles. They changed the face of music, and inspired a generation. But if you think about it the peppers have basically inspired thousands of musicans. IF you ask any bass player that is about my age who inspired you to become a bassist? and 7 out of 10 times you will get flea. The peppers have been able to incorperate so many different genres of music into their sound that most likely if you like any form of rock and roll you will like the peppers. If fact one of my friend generally hates rock but loves the peppers. WHy is that? Because they have universal appeal like the Beatles did.

The RHCP's also were able to change the face of rock music by fusing funk, punk, alternative, soft rock, rock, Hard rock, classic rock and various other forms of rock into somethingthat works. In fact the basically inspired, rap metal, funk metal and other genres to this day.
Ever heard of:
Primus
Rage Against the Machine
Sugar Ray
311
Sublime ?

They were all insprired by RHCP's.

While ill agree that they aren't nearly on he same scale as the beatles they sure as hell has a pretty big impact on rock as we know it.


No.

I can think of at least 50 bands within the last 20 years with more influence on rock music.

DekWannaBFlea 12-13-2004 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hellboy
No.

I can think of at least 50 bands within the last 20 years with more influence on rock music.



Give me one of them then.

You can't count Nirvana, because they are done.

Dogstar 12-14-2004 12:01 AM

That's bullshit that you can't count Nirvana. Please...influence is influence whether the band is done or not...and there are much bigger bands from more than 20 years ago who had a big impact on rock.

Here are some of mine of the top of my head:
Metallica
U2
Led Zeppelin
Pink Floyd
Alice In Chains

aussiecreeder 12-14-2004 12:08 AM

albums like BSSM were great but the last couple of albums could have being better. john's solo work is better these days and flea could do better. i think anthony holds those guys back in all honesty.

Said Eyes 12-14-2004 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by DekWannaBFlea
Its a f'ing methapor, etc

I'm not going to argue because you can obviously site all this stuff that I really couldn't care less about, plus I do like RHCP, but comparing ANYONE to the Beatles is just foolish and show's you have no idea about what those 4 Merseysiders did.

edit: AND it was a similie, not a metaphor.

DekWannaBFlea 12-14-2004 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dogstar
That's bullshit that you can't count Nirvana. Please...influence is influence whether the band is done or not...and there are much bigger bands from more than 20 years ago who had a big impact on rock.

Here are some of mine of the top of my head:
Metallica
U2
Led Zeppelin
Pink Floyd
Alice In Chains


Is Zeppelin, floyd my generation? I am 18.

No i didn't think so.


Metallica- Ill agree that Metallica is up there , and most likely a beatles like inspiration. Even though their last 3 albums have blew and really haven't inspired anybody except to blow chunks.
Alice in Chains- No, just no. Nirvana had more influence on rock as a whole than AIC did. The only band that i can think of is Godsmack that AIC inspired.

U2- While inspiring, hardly inspiring to the modern rock scene, can you name any bands (besides Stapp) that has been inspired by U2?

DekWannaBFlea 12-14-2004 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Said Eyes
I'm not going to argue because you can obviously site all this stuff that I really couldn't care less about, plus I do like RHCP, but comparing ANYONE to the Beatles is just foolish and show's you have no idea about what those 4 Merseysiders did.

edit: AND it was a similie, not a metaphor.


Did i not clarify my self to what i meant? Reread the long post.

DekWannaBFlea 12-14-2004 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by handmedown
albums like BSSM were great but the last couple of albums could have being better. john's solo work is better these days and flea could do better. i think anthony holds those guys back in all honesty.


Except the last album was more focused on guitar and they wanted to try something new. By the way was still an amazing album.


Californication most likely in the top 30 of greatest albums of the 90's. SImply amazing album. BSSM is a great album too.

Illl agree that fleas' playing has taken the back seat, but he is doing it on purpose to let john shine. Flea is still amazing, and the construction of his parts are awe inspiring.

Torn Daredevil 12-14-2004 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DekWannaBFlea
Give me one of them then.

You can't count Nirvana, because they are done.


Bullshit, Nirvana counts.

Here ya go, just a few:

Nirvana
Smashing Pumpkins
Metallica
Creed
Pearl Jam
Rage Against the Machine
Soundgarden
Tool
NIN
No Doubt
Alice in Chains

Dogstar 12-14-2004 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DekWannaBFlea
Is Zeppelin, floyd my generation? I am 18.

No i didn't think so.


Go listen to some of it and then listen to Soundgarden and even Alter Bridge, Big Wreck/Thornley and countless other bands. How many singers left and right have been influenced by Robert Plant? Open your mind.


Quote:

Alice in Chains- No, just no. Nirvana had more influence on rock as a whole than AIC did. The only band that i can think of is Godsmack that AIC inspired.

Again, expand your mind. Listen to the guitars. A lot of bands, even though they can't match AIC (Nickelback, Default, Days of the New, Dust For Life, I could go on and on), owe a debt to Jerry Cantrell, who, by the way, borrowed from his influences and the generation that came before him (Zeppelin, King's X, AC/DC). Again, expand your mind. And I never said they had as much influence as Nirvana, only that they had more influence on current rock in general than the RHCP.

jango 12-15-2004 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DekWannaBFlea
Except the last album was more focused on guitar and they wanted to try something new. By the way was still an amazing album.


Californication most likely in the top 30 of greatest albums of the 90's. SImply amazing album. BSSM is a great album too.

Illl agree that fleas' playing has taken the back seat, but he is doing it on purpose to let john shine. Flea is still amazing, and the construction of his parts are awe inspiring.


You are truly misguided. RHCP had little influence over Rage. Morello's guitar is light years ahead of Frusciante and Flea combined. NEVER place those two bands on the same loft. They do not belong together. Californication is not the band's best work, let alone anywhere near the top 30 of the last decade. Not even close... top 300, maybe... maybe. But even that's a stretch.

Bands inspired by Alice in Chains/Layne Staley:
Monster Magnet
Candlebox
Kyuss - bassist rivals Flea
Deftones
Creed - on many levels
Velvet Revolver
Foo Fighters
Queens - Nick Oliveri OWNS flea, end of discussion
Fu Manchu
Seven Mary Three

The peppers stirred a bit in the 80s, I'll give you that, but they faded into medicority in the 90s.

Dogstar 12-15-2004 11:29 AM

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RHCP had little influence over Rage. Morello's guitar is light years ahead of Frusciante and Flea combined. NEVER place those two bands on the same loft. They do not belong together.
Thank you.

creedsister 12-15-2004 09:32 PM

i take my peppers moods, and thats about it to me there just a band that has no justice untill you heared,em live

Dogstar 12-15-2004 09:49 PM

I saw them live. I wasn't that impressed :D. Maybe they were having a bad night, or something. The Foo Fighters opened for them that night, and they were much better.

creedsister 12-15-2004 10:05 PM

i know it i,ve caught some great bands some of my faves on bbad nights But Thats Just So Like My Freaking Luck

DekWannaBFlea 12-21-2004 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Torn Daredevil
Bullshit, Nirvana counts.
Here ya go, just a few:
Nirvana
Fine they count and yes they are more.
Smashing Pumpkins
Wtf? No how the hell did they get in there? What have they done?
Metallica
Sure for metal, but they are universally liked
Creed
Ummm no, i can only think of default and nickelback that were infulenced by them
Pearl Jam

No Soundgarden had more appeal so did nirvana

Rage Against the Machine
LOL, RATM wouldn't exist if it weren't for the Peppers breaking out in the 80's, I am a RATM fan btw, and they kick ass but no
Soundgarden
Weren't nearly as the peppers or Nirvana, but try again
Tool
NIN
These bands don't have universal appeal, even though musicans tend to love tool a lot.
No Doubt
lol, No doubt wouldn't be known with out the peppers becoming popular. And i really don't think anybody has been influenced by them.
Alice in Chains
No universal appeal, next



my responses to your reply

DekWannaBFlea 12-21-2004 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dogstar
That's bullshit that you can't count Nirvana. Please...influence is influence whether the band is done or not...and there are much bigger bands from more than 20 years ago who had a big impact on rock.

Here are some of mine of the top of my head:
Metallica
U2
Led Zeppelin
Pink Floyd
Alice In Chains



I am talkin about bands still a round to day. their goes LZ and PF

DekWannaBFlea 12-21-2004 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jango
You are truly misguided. RHCP had little influence over Rage. Morello's guitar is light years ahead of Frusciante and Flea combined. NEVER place those two bands on the same loft. They do not belong together. Californication is not the band's best work, let alone anywhere near the top 30 of the last decade. Not even close... top 300, maybe... maybe. But even that's a stretch.

Bands inspired by Alice in Chains/Layne Staley:
Monster Magnet
Candlebox
Kyuss - bassist rivals Flea
Deftones
Creed - on many levels
Velvet Revolver
Foo Fighters
Queens - Nick Oliveri OWNS flea, end of discussion
Fu Manchu
Seven Mary Three

The peppers stirred a bit in the 80s, I'll give you that, but they faded into medicority in the 90s.


Please tell me how those bands are inspired by AIC.


LOL, where are you coming from? the peppers are still out their and kicking, you just don't listen to much alternative. Like i said Californication is considered a badass album, I hate to make refrences to Rollingstone,but even they agree that Californication is good, on the top 500 list of rock albums of all time.


And to say that Ovlieri owns flea is the dumbest thing i have ever heard. I am a bassist and i have covered a QOTSA song, all he does is play f'ing root notes. Have you ever seen Flea play solos? Ever seen him play funk bass lesson that is on Kazza? I doubt you have Olveri is not considered a uper badass except to you, you want some people who agree with me?

http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/page...assguitar.html


There is one example, where is Ovlieri on that list? I don't see em.



Like i said, Rolling stone said them self that Califonication was in the top 500 albums of all time, and again ill have to quote another source
http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/page...albums90s.html

number 31. hmmm i guess i am not the only person that agrees.



And with the RATM example, the guitar playin doesn't sound the same yes, but what about the bass? or what about the drums? What about the rapping? pretty similar to their older stuff.

DekWannaBFlea 12-21-2004 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dogstar
I saw them live. I wasn't that impressed :D. Maybe they were having a bad night, or something. The Foo Fighters opened for them that night, and they were much better.




Yeah it must have been, i ahve dled them and they are pretty badass. And the foo fighters aren't that great IMO.

DekWannaBFlea 12-21-2004 09:14 PM

Back on subject, the original purpose of this thread was to talk about how they affected the rock scene, the purpose was to talk about the peppers music and what is going on with them. Ill take about the Beatles comment just because i changed my mind, but they are still very influenutal, considering flea made poping and slaping into one popular, But whatever.


I heard they are coming out with their album next year, i can't wait.

Dogstar 12-22-2004 02:40 PM

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Please tell me how those bands are inspired by AIC.

Oh.......my............God........
You obviously haven't listened to them, either that, or you can't hear.

Said Eyes 12-23-2004 02:30 AM

Dogstar, I think DekWannaBFlea is just a little upset that everyone else here doesn't think that RHCP created funk. A little delusional I think. And a bit defensive because Flea invented that slap-bass things that everyone's doing these days! OMG HE SO DID Bootsy Collins doesn't exist! Lies! That was the fake 1985 when Biff stole the almanac!

And before you go off on me, I play bass too, as does my girl (<3), and of a small scale survey, 100% said that Flea doesn't really impress them and had no impact on chosing bass as an instrument to play (But Mother's Milk was pretty cool). Make of that what you will.

I think RHCP's drumming is unimaginative, and the vocals are average (horrendous live, I've heard). But I still think Fruciante is awesome through and through and he more than makes up for half of the band being mediocre.

aussiecreeder 12-23-2004 02:37 AM

there is a strong rumour that a new band will feature perry farrell (ex-jane's addiction), john fruscinate and flea (peppers) and jack irons (ex-peppers and pearl jam). if its true it should be very interesting........


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