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titan9 06-22-2005 12:19 PM

MTV News - Alter Bridge's Tremonti Says Forget About a Creed Reunion
 
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/150...headlines=true

Someone on another board just pointed this article out. I actually got a good laugh when I came to this part "He's(Stapp) still out there playing Creed songs with a pieced-together pawnshop band." Lol! Can't say I disagree with him there.:laugh: Anyway, this article should put to rest the rumors of a Creed reunion.

Bridge of Clay 06-22-2005 12:26 PM

This article on MTV is a small fraction of the 6 page article that the new GuitarOne features. as soon as I find it complete, typed or scanned, I'll let you know.

Hopefully Stace and Ryan will do it.

titan9 06-22-2005 12:30 PM

Yeah, I forgot to mention that. I saw the latest Guitar One mag but didn't see anything about a Tremonti interview, or else I would have read it.

Chase 06-22-2005 12:52 PM

I think that Stapp did that intentionally to piss off Tremonti. Tremonti talks shit on Stapp and Stapp decides to break that agreement. Why can't they be like the Gallagher brothers in Oasis? Fight and make great music. Oh well, it's kind of funny watching them go at it.

Dogstar 06-22-2005 01:24 PM

I'll have to get GuitarOne. Thanks for the heads up, titan. Actually, hasn't Stapp only done a verson of Higher? I can't recall what else he's done with Creed songs.

titan9 06-22-2005 04:02 PM

I think he might have done "With Arms Wide Open" during those Nascar awards. Originally, he was supposed to do "Relearn Love" as the second song, but I recall hearing he did WAWO instead. However, that wasn't shown on TV. I think Stapp has also done an acoustic version of Higher before during a radio interview, but can't say so for sure. I'll have to check PBF sometime and see if I'm right about that.

The Lithium 06-22-2005 04:57 PM

He did an acoustic version of WAWO too. And that fucker who plays guitar... It sure ain't Mark! You can actually hear that it's not Mark playing, 'cause the guy can't even copy his style.

Dogstar 06-22-2005 05:23 PM

That's right. I thought maybe there was a version of WAWO.

tremonti4life04 06-22-2005 09:23 PM

the guy cant match the skill and class that tremonti brings to the guitar and stage.

Higher_Desire 06-23-2005 12:22 AM

I can't wait to read the GuitarOne article now. Though, we've heard basically everything and then some of what Mark has to say about it. I'd love to hear ALL of Stapp's side of the story.

Quote:

There is no way in the world that Creed would get back together — unless it was for world peace."
Alright guys. Now we know what we need to accomplish! If we all band together (no pun intended) we can make it happen! Whaddaya say?


H-D :pimp:

aussiecreeder 06-23-2005 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Higher_Desire
I can't wait to read the GuitarOne article now. Though, we've heard basically everything and then some of what Mark has to say about it. I'd love to hear ALL of Stapp's side of the story.


Alright guys. Now we know what we need to accomplish! If we all band together (no pun intended) we can make it happen! Whaddaya say?


H-D :pimp:



lets call Kim Je Hung (is that you spell the north korean dictator's name) lol and tell him we need the cold war part 2 so that an american rock band will reform! if he' anything like how he is in "team america" he's sure to be in! lol

uncertaindrumer 06-23-2005 11:14 AM

The Full article is on ABB.net if you wanna go read it.

Anyone who still lieks Stapp afetr reading the full article is in denial, is an idiot, and can't look at evidence.

titan9 06-23-2005 11:23 AM

I still like Stapp as a musician, so am I an idiot?:laugh: Seriously, though. I can't defend him as a person, but I can say that if everything Mark said is true, I've lost a lot of respect for Stapp the person. Here I thought that, based on previous interviews, Stapp was being the man, not running down Mark like Mark was bad-mouthing Stapp. Now I see that Mark had good reason to bad-mouth Stapp.

uncertaindrumer 06-23-2005 11:34 AM

Yes, Titan, we all know you are an idiot. lol, jk of course.

There is a big difference between thinking he has a good voice--which I would still probably disagree with--and being like some other anonymous people on the board who think he is a God.

But yeah, anyway...I knew Titan9 was gonna give me trouble for that. lol

titan9 06-23-2005 11:56 AM

Just like I know you'll give me trouble whenever I say something about Creed and Alter Bridge being equally good or that Creed had awesome lyrics.:laugh: It's inevitable, lol.

Yeah, there's definitely a huge difference between worshipping him as a God and just liking him as a vocalist and lyricist. I'm really disappointed in Stapp if all of this stuff is true. I thought he was above doing that to Mark, but I guess not. It won't stop me from buying the CD, going to a concert, but I'm still disappointed.

TeriB19 06-23-2005 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by titan9
Here I thought that, based on previous interviews, Stapp was being the man, not running down Mark like Mark was bad-mouthing Stapp. Now I see that Mark had good reason to bad-mouth Stapp.

There's ONE!!! Now if we could at least convince some OTHERS of Stapp's fallability, the board would be a lot more pleasant. Titan, I agree with you, I'm still a Stapp fan and yes, I'd buy his CD (if it ever does come out) and there's no denying the man has talent. But you're right, Mark had good reason to finally come out and speak his mind. And it sounds like they are still holding back quite a bit of the story.

titan9 06-24-2005 12:39 AM

Yeah, see, before it just seemed like Mark was just bad-mouthing Stapp for the sake of bad-mouthing Stapp. I saw no reasoning behind it; no reason to kick a man while he's down. If everything Mark said is true, then yes, I'd be just as angry about it as Mark is. Would I bad-mouth the guy I'm angry with in the press? Perhaps. I guess it all depends on the personality and how angry you are with someone. I can't fault Mark for speaking his mind, even though I wish the dirty laundry wouldn't have been aired in public. But I still can't fault Mark for speaking the truth and letting the fans know what happened.

To all the Stapp fans out there who are thinking I'm bashing Stapp and that I'm no longer a fan of him, that's not the case. I still respect the heck out of the guy as a musician and I still like him the same as far as that's concerned. He still has my support, musically, as a fan. But with what's been said and if it's all true, no one can really defend Stapp, the person, for what has happened. It's really an awful thing to betray an agreement with a guy who was like a brother to you. And that's what I'm thinking about here. That's why I'm disappointed.

uncertaindrumer 06-26-2005 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by titan9
Yeah, see, before it just seemed like Mark was just bad-mouthing Stapp for the sake of bad-mouthing Stapp. I saw no reasoning behind it; no reason to kick a man while he's down. If everything Mark said is true, then yes, I'd be just as angry about it as Mark is. Would I bad-mouth the guy I'm angry with in the press? Perhaps. I guess it all depends on the personality and how angry you are with someone. I can't fault Mark for speaking his mind, even though I wish the dirty laundry wouldn't have been aired in public. But I still can't fault Mark for speaking the truth and letting the fans know what happened.



See I don't look at it as bad-mouthing. I look at it as the truth. Look, guys like Stapp put themselves in a public position where they get paid abnormal amoutns of money to do stuff that does absolutely nothing for the good of humanity. The guy working 9 to 5 does more for the progress of our race than Stapp, Tremonti, or the Beatles ever did. They are entertainers and get a whole heck of a lot of fame and fortune for doing basically NOTHING. One of the prices of that is publicity. If Stapp is being an all around idiot, the public should know that just as much as they knew when he was selling millions of records. He put himself in that position (and lied and cheated in an attempt to STAY in that position), and deserves all the bad rap he gets.

Tremonti gets asked questions about Stapp all the time, and nothing would make me think he should answer them with lies. A "No comment" maybe? Possibly, but everyone knows that a "no comment" is as good as a condemnation anyway.

titan9 06-26-2005 02:08 PM

Well, before it just seemed to me like Mark was really bitter about the whole thing and rather than taking the high road(i.e. not talking about the past, including Stapp), he chose to say less than flattering things about Stapp in the press. He had every right to say those things, but if it were me, I would not have said that stuff. I would have taken the high road and said "I prefer not to speak about the past. I'd rather focus on my new band." That's just me, though, and I guess it all depends on the person and the situation. Now that Mark has shed some more light on this whole thing, I can see why he'd feel the need to talk about Stapp. He obviously wants the fans to know what, from his perspective, is the truth. He's probably tired of what Stapp has said and probably thinks that everything Stapp has said are lies. I've tried to be unbiased in interpreting what both guys have said, and I think there is some truth to what both of them have said. Right now, though, Mark's story seems to be the more truthful one, but I do not think that everything Stapp says is a lie.

Ana4Stapp 06-26-2005 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uncertaindrumer
See I don't look at it as bad-mouthing. I look at it as the truth. Look, guys like Stapp put themselves in a public position where they get paid abnormal amoutns of money to do stuff that does absolutely nothing for the good of humanity. The guy working 9 to 5 does more for the progress of our race than Stapp, Tremonti, or the Beatles ever did. They are entertainers and get a whole heck of a lot of fame and fortune for doing basically NOTHING. One of the prices of that is publicity.
.


I dont agree with that. A person who writes or sings or plays a song isnt doing basically nothing???? Are you sure of it?

Artists, musicians, players are doing a lot of important things, actually very good thing, (of course when this kind of thing has quality.) cause they are filling our " normal" lives with poetry... dream ... ;)

I cant think life without music!!!! ;)

By the way, arent you a musician??? I mean a DRUMMER??? :D LOL

uncertaindrumer 06-26-2005 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ana4Stapp
I dont agree with that. A person who writes or sings or plays a song isnt doing basically nothing???? Are you sure of it?

Artists, musicians, players are doing a lot of important things, actually very good thing, (of course when this kind of thing has quality.) cause they are filling our " normal" lives with poetry... dream ... ;)

I cant think life without music!!!! ;)

By the way, arent you a musician??? I mean a DRUMMER??? :D LOL


Yes I am a musician. And indeed that just shows me how little music does for the world compared to many other people jsut strugglign to live. Look, music, entertainment, relaxtion, is all important, and without it we would go nuts. But for anyoen in any entertainment industry to even entertain the thoguht that what they are doing i even remotely worth considering compared to doctors, teachers, soldiers, etc., is beyond arrogant.

And anyway, I wasn't tryign to bad mouth the industry, just put it in perspective.

Ana4Stapp 06-26-2005 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by uncertaindrumer
Yes I am a musician. And indeed that just shows me how little music does for the world compared to many other people jsut strugglign to live. Look, music, entertainment, relaxtion, is all important, and without it we would go nuts. But for anyoen in any entertainment industry to even entertain the thoguht that what they are doing i even remotely worth considering compared to doctors, teachers, soldiers, etc., is beyond arrogant.

And anyway, I wasn't tryign to bad mouth the industry, just put it in perspective.


Yeah, I know what you meant, ;) but I just wanted to say that music is very important to me, and I cant imagine life without it, even though entertainement industry, especially musical industry is full of great "personalities" like ashsleys, britneys,etc..

Also, of course, I consider and respect men and women that struggle very hard every day :)


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