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Militants Surround EU Offices in Gaza Over 'Offensive' Cartoons
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,183551,00.html
Thoughts? Islamic extremists are now confronting Europe. |
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I hesitate to say this, but I might as well....
Thank God there's finally someone to share in the anti-Western sentiment to emanates from the Middle East! |
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But, on a serious note, I almost couldn't believe this when I first heard about it a day or two ago. It's outrageous, and it seems like something that would almost certainly not be tolerated in most places in the U.S. We're a country built on religious freedom and, although there did exist a certain degree of anti-Arab and anti-Muslim sentiment immediately following 9/11, it seems that has largely subsided, and that most Americans would find this disgusting. Looks like we're not the only insensitive folk in the world, after all.
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So what are you saying? The papers were wrong for publicizing the cartoons? If that's it, I totally disagree. I support them for showing solidarity with the Danes. If there is one thing that is most common in our current Western values, it has to be the freedom of expression, which should include any freedom in outing opinion/ridicule over religions. Jesus, Buddha, Yahweh, Jehova, Zeus, Odin, Mohammed, they are no exceptions to the rule, just because some part of the world's population mey hold them in high esteem. Especially in a case like this were insult was definitely not the target of the cartoonist. The western world should not apologize for someone executing one of their most prized possesions, the freedom of speech and expression. |
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EXACTLY. I finally agree with you. I also was shocked seeing young Danes in the streets basically begging for Islamic forgiveness. Freedom of speech is an essential part to Western values... if they have a problem with it, oh well. No one should apologize.
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I'm saying it's not right to trample over the core beliefs of more than 1 billion people in the world at the cost of humoring a handful of white, secular and/or Christian Europeans who are merely scared shitless by the increasing number of Muslims moving into Europe. Very very poor taste, if you ask me.
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I would agree with you, if it would have been the target of these cartoons to insult islam or the islam people, but every one should be able to take themselves and their religion not to seriously at all times.
If suddenly Mohammed is above being cartooned, who's next Dubya, because I don't know how many people voted for him and his ideas? Shit happens, deal with it. |
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Oh, the religion is volatile, and therefore we should just abide by their wishes, and try the utmost not to enrage anyone. What did actually happen? Someone drew a character, the founder of an religion to some, no one special to others, and related in a funny matter some things that people tend to associate with that religion also in the picture? It's a drawing !!!! People want to kill people for drawing !!! I hear they are urging for Fatwa's against the cartoonists. This is exactly the thing why islam/mohammed was drawn as a terrorist, these people need to get a sense of humor. And if you don't like the paper, don't buy it. Who is making the bad comparison's now. Comparing the fuzz over some cartoons, with invading a nation/starting a war. I don't even care why these cartoons were published, except maybe if they were really intentionally being made to piss off people/muslims, but even than, in our western society we can make cartoons of Jesus, the basic character of the major religion of the west, therefore we can do the same to any religious character. Blasphemy is probably the most stupid law there is. This is just Salman Rushdie all over again, muslims will just have to learn that not all people agree with their religion and criticism, sarcasm, irony on your religion of choice is something you will have to deal with, and if your religion is all that you think is is, it can stand some scrutiny. |
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This is where I step in and say "look what religion gets you" people are offended by the smallest stupidest things. I mean I have put anti- religion things on my car such as a sticker that reads "God is just pretend" and my car has been vandalized many times. but it seems ok fine and dandy if say a Xtian put on any pro-god sticker on thier car that I have to put up with day in and day out. I have more respect than to vandalize some ones car. there is no tolerence when it comes to matters of god thats why there can't be a god because so many people say that there is just one certain god but no one can agree who or what god is. I mean come on people can you just see it that WE (i mean mankind) Created god??
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so you're asserting that religion is the only reason "people are offended by the smallest stupidest things"?
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Really????!!! So answer me if this includes U.S. ... :rolleyes: http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=214629 PS: Well ...you told me to come back...so Im here... hope you wont be sorry for that --- :D lol |
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You couldnt say it better, Ryan... ;) Im not a religious person, (by the way Im almost an atheist) , always defend freedom in all means-- what definitely makes people here think that Im too much liberalist (almost true ;) ) but I have to admitt that those cartoons showed up in a inappropriate moment...did you guys realize that Iran's president is using this as an excuse to try to unite muslims against ocicdent??? Its the moment he was anxiously waiting...and we gave it to him... In a meeting with local authors, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad condemned the cartoons and addressed the West: “Insulting the Prophet Muhammad would not promote your position,” http://msnbc.msn.com/id/10705393/ Was it necessary???? |
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There are standards as to what one can say on T.V. For instance, on pornography, foul language, and other things aren't considered appropriate for some stations. We had the problem 2 years ago of Janet Jackson exposing a breast during the Super Bowl. I'm confused as to what kind of statement you're trying to make, by the way. If there are kids watching, it's not appropriate to show or say certain things on T.V. Watching the Super Bowl is an American, family tradition for millions of families. If you're going to come back in here... at least make sense when trying to make America look bad. |
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