Originally Posted by DekWannaBFlea

Sorry Temple of the Dog isn't my kind of stuff, even though Cornell is in it.


The point i am tryin to make is that why have Pearl Jam lost so much success? Thts all i want an answer to.That is the point i am trying to make, and i bet even you would admit PJ's best stuff is in the early 90's.

Originally Posted by aussiecreeder

i think it was some loser named chris cornell..... ;) lol jk

Originally Posted by aussiecreeder

pearl jam's two best albums IMO are vs and no code which by memory came out in 93 and 96 respectfully. i don't think their last two albums are as good as the ones before it but its still a universe ahead of the crap called "rock" these days like jet, nickelback and three days grace. temple of the dog is the single best thing anyone from that group ever did, the emotion is just so obvious and cornell particulary in "say hello 2 heaven" is just on fire!

Originally Posted by creedsister

New Again~~Braid Paisley & The Sara Chick

Originally Posted by fluttergirl

you are SO kicked out of the nice discussion area, that in not only name calling, but blasphemy as well. poo head.
lol
yeah, his voice WAS a lot better than it IS.
however, as you said, he is far from being done, hes still got a lot of steam.
maybe he quit smoking, and didnt tell us, and this next audioslave cd will be a testament to his vocal chords.
maybe.

say hello to heaven........
oh
soooooo good

Originally Posted by DekWannaBFlea

THe best thing that Soundgarden did was release "Superunkown" which is critically acclaimed as one of the top rock albums of the 90's.

Originally Posted by jango

Pearl Jam's "best stuff" is not in the nineties. Their commercial "decline" is due to the fact that they did not sell out to Sony interests. They distributed fewer albums with less fanfare a la the Dead.

Its all opinion, if you ask any critic they will tell you Pearl Jam's best stuff is in the nineties, Ten and Vs.. All in the early 90's.

McCready and Gossard are miles ahead of Thayil. McCready plays an eclectic mix of funk and rock with a blues tinge that finds its home in quiet ballads. Thayil, although magnificent, was much more straightforward and hard-hitting. Where Thayil would lay down a hard rock riff, McCready would play off Gossard's tempo and Vedder's vocals to create an atmosphere not seen (nor appreciated) during the era. Catchy riffs and style do not equal talent. McCready is the shit. Play Nothingman, Yellow Ledbetter, the solo in Alive, Down, the entire Mad Season album, TotD, etc.

The hard hitting term you are looking for is psychedelia and punk, which he magnificancly mixes together. Hell i hate punk, but Thayil manages to pull it off to my liking. IF catchy riffs and style don't equal talent then why do you hold Morello in such high regard?

Pearl Jam stuck to their roots, stayed true to the art and play to their fans and their fans only. No other band on that list does that or did that. They are a dying breed of rock musicians with no commercial interest and only that of providing quality music to those who truly appreciate it while inspiring development and rational thought. Ten and Vs. caught the eye of the public, but the public failed to grow with the band and adopted the Spice Girls and Third Eye Blind as well as numerous other "post-Grunge" bands with no talent. Soundgarden, STP, and to a certain extent, AIC existed in the moment and died with the moment. Nirvana was a product of another revolution and paved the way for grunge. Pearl Jam embodied and continue to embody grunge in their undying angst and style.

That is why they kick ass.

Well if you fail to realize that Soundgarden choose to break up they didn't just break up or fade away, they felt like they were only playing for the fans and and not for themselfves and choose to move on. So analyzing the pont in this way makes no difference, saying a band didn't last longer than the other doesn't make it a better band.

Originally Posted by aussiecreeder

you would see if you read the quote correctly that i said anyone in that band ever did, not what soundgarden did. temple of the dog is not soundgarden..... ;)

Originally Posted by RMadd

yeah.... I'd hardly say that Binaural or Riot Act are excellent albums. I own the former, and there's only a couple songs on there to which I can stand giving a listen (the same goes for Vitalogy). That's not to say that those songs suck, tho. I don't own Riot Act, but I've got a few friends who do, and they absolutely hate it. And Jango, I don't think they've stuck to their roots. If they had, then every other album they've got would be as awesome as Ten was. Instead, now they're trying to fill the void that Rage left by making political commentaries galore.

Originally Posted by DekWannaBFlea

Good discuassion...I love it.


Ok to got started.
Where have Pearl Jam's Fanbase gone? In an era where Post-grunge is still pretty popular, you would figure a band like Pearl Jam (grunge( could make it and in fact increase their fan base....but they don't...In fact I haven't even heard a newer song by pearl jam, even when requests are allowed. Maybe i its just where i live but still you would figure they would once in a while. Even on modern rock sations you don't here them.