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Dogstar 10-17-2004 08:59 PM

Just because AB aren't playing Creed songs does NOT mean they aren't proud of what they accomplished as Creed. Please cite the source where they say they aren't proud of the music they created.

BobbyMcGee 10-17-2004 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dogstar
Just because AB aren't playing Creed songs does NOT mean they aren't proud of what they accomplished as Creed. Please cite the source where they say they aren't proud of the music they created.


Gladly:

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mark answered a question about WAWO crossing the band over to pop music...mark said..."please don't remember us for that song."
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Dogstar 10-17-2004 09:05 PM

Oh please, as if that's an indictment of all of their music.

BobbyMcGee 10-17-2004 09:07 PM

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Oh please, as if that's an indictment of all of their music.


Didn't WAWO win them a grammy?
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Dogstar 10-17-2004 09:08 PM

I don't pay much attention to the Grammys. They are pretty useless and they don't mean squat, really.

BobbyMcGee 10-17-2004 09:16 PM

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I don't pay much attention to the Grammys. They are pretty useless and they don't mean squat, really.


It's still an award. You think Mark and Flip are willing to give their grammy's back?
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Dogstar 10-17-2004 09:22 PM

It's a pointless award, really. It's all about money and what's selling, it's not about judging actual talent. You even have to pay to even be considered. The Grammys are a joke, and really, that's not the issue. Mark tends to be on the harder side, music-wise, so I would expect him not to want to Creed to be remembered for only WAWO. That doesn't mean he's not proud of what Creed accomplished. For him, it's in the past. And to be honest, AB couldn't really get away with doing Creed songs, because it wouldn't be Scott singing them. There is less animosity about Scott singing them because he was the voice on the songs. I see no difference, really. I don't think either one should play/sing the Creed songs if Creed is dead. I would hate to see Scott at a concert singing Creed songs without Mark and Flip in his band. Just my 2 cents.

StillACreedFan 10-17-2004 09:46 PM

What does that quote about WAWO show? I think a lot of creed fans would agree with Tremonti. Creed has plenty of songs that are a lot more indicative of who they are than WAWO.

Dogstar 10-17-2004 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by StillACreedFan
What does that quote about WAWO show? I think a lot of creed fans would agree with Tremonti. Creed has plenty of songs that are a lot more indicative of who they are than WAWO.

Exactly.

Trimontana 10-17-2004 09:53 PM

Answering about awards:
I donīt think my lovely Mr Tremonti and my sweet Flip have to return back any award cos: Creed did not win NONE grammy award. Check it in the advance search from: www.grammyawards.com


All the awards Creed won you can check it at: www.creed.com/news.html

Bridge of Clay 10-17-2004 10:27 PM

no, Tremonti and Stapp won for best rock song...

Trimontana 10-17-2004 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Bridge of Clay
no, Tremonti and Stapp won for best rock song...



Are you sure it was a grammy?

Trimontana 10-17-2004 10:31 PM

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GRAMMY Winner Mark Tremonti & Scott Stapp,songwriters.
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DekWannaBFlea 10-18-2004 08:08 AM

I can't believe Scott is covering creed songs.....Wow.....I would rather hear scott sing the national anthem over and over again instead of hearing scott sing creed songs without the rest of creed. At least out of respect or something.

Shadow 10-18-2004 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DekWannaBFlea
I can't believe Scott is covering creed songs.....Wow.....I would rather hear scott sing the national anthem over and over again instead of hearing scott sing creed songs without the rest of creed. At least out of respect or something.

Scott is not covering anything. There are his songs to perform if he wants to. He wrote the lyrics and it was his voice that sang the songs. I say way to go Scott!!!!

Steve 10-18-2004 03:08 PM

There's more to songs than just lyrics. Just an FYI.

fluttergirl 10-18-2004 03:09 PM

but the band he will be touring with will not include tremonti, flip, marshall, or even hestla. I have no problem with him singing it, and if he wants to learn how to play the guitar, fine, but having another band play creed this soon after the breakup is disrepectful, and tacky, IMO. It would be the same thing as Myles Kennedy singing WAWO or MS.

RockGoddess 10-18-2004 05:11 PM

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Are you sure it was a grammy


The Grammy was on display in the home. (No, I have not seen it but I was told by a member of the Tremonti family that it was in fact on display) That's how ashamed Mark is of WAWO and what Creed accomplished.

(In fact, it was Stapp who totally dissed the Grammy award)

If Stapp wants to perform Creed songs let him. If that is what brings him happiness and a sense of pride and satisfaction, fine!

But I do think that the Creed breakup and the formation of Alter Bridge is A LOT like a divorce and a new marriage. Why continue to re-visit a marriage that is over? Work on the one you're in now, and let go of the other.

Torn Daredevil 10-18-2004 05:15 PM

Technically, if "Creed" is not playing the songs, they are covers.

So, Scott WOULD be covering Creed songs. FYI.

Dogstar 10-18-2004 05:50 PM

That's splitting hairs, Hellboy. He and Mark wrote the songs, so I woudn't call them covers in the conventional sense. Jerry Cantrell still plays Alice songs, but I don't consider those covers, given that he wrote most of their stuff. If you created the songs and you recorded them, they're still your songs.

DekWannaBFlea 10-18-2004 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dogstar
That's splitting hairs, Hellboy. He and Mark wrote the songs, so I woudn't call them covers in the conventional sense. Jerry Cantrell still plays Alice songs, but I don't consider those covers, given that he wrote most of their stuff. If you created the songs and you recorded them, they're still your songs.


How about we call them cover/originals? Seems to be easiest. Consider that Scott did not create any of of the back ground music.

Shadow 10-18-2004 09:50 PM

Just FYI......Scott is proud of his Grammy and has it on display in his studio.

DekWannaBFlea 10-18-2004 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadow
Just FYI......Scott is proud of his Grammy and has it on display in his studio.



I am sure tremonti is proud he won the award but i don't think he is trying say he hates the song or creed or whatever. He just wants to move on with creating music and not worry about what happened 4 years ago.

johellion 10-19-2004 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jooji_2
Maybe he just doesn't want to do an entire tour playing the same what, eleven or twelve songs from a solo album every night....I don't have the financial resources to travel from city to city to see one band play....but ya know all those people who have seen multiple AB shows.....are seeing the exact same show each time, what with maybe one cover song thrown in.

Everybody is actin like he's gonna do a full blown Creed concert, when actually he may only be referring to one or two songs a night, and throwing in a few of the classic rock cover songs he's already alluded to. I'm guessing he would sing WAWO...most people expect him to sing it, considering the source of the inspiration for it. :D



Geezzzzzz. :wtf: ....give it a break....AB has ONE album right now....When Creed had ONE album they played the eleven or twelve songs they had on it!!!! That is the way it issssssss!!!...AB, Do change the songs around....It is not like seeing the same show!!! I went to Voodoo in NO.....It was GREAT!!! They did do a Deep Purple cover that blew everyones mind!! Totally awesome!! :D

Trimontana 10-19-2004 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by johellion
Geezzzzzz. :wtf: ....give it a break....AB has ONE album right now....When Creed had ONE album they played the eleven or twelve songs they had on it!!!! That is the way it issssssss!!!...AB, Do change the songs around....It is not like seeing the same show!!! I went to Voodoo in NO.....It was GREAT!!! They did do a Deep Purple cover that blew everyones mind!! Totally awesome!! :D



Do you remember the cover songs name????

aussiecreeder 10-19-2004 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Trimontana
Do you remember the cover songs name????


they have being playing deep purple's highway star of late so i would assume it was that song! :)

facelessman 10-20-2004 05:59 AM

i dont know about this. i dont feel like its right for scott to play creed songs. although he did write most of the lyrics, who did the music? mark. and the words would be nothiing without the music. i dont thing its right for him to do that.

The Lithium 10-20-2004 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Shadow
Hey Lith - it's up on the PBF board. Once again, Scott was amazing.

And just FYI - I was able to get through to Scott when he was on the radio last night on Open House Party. I asked him about playing Creed songs and his response to me bascially was - "Why shouldn't I play the songs I wrote". I agree with him 100%. He was a pleasure to speak to.

I have the answer to that: because it's MARK's songs, your lyrics... Not your songs! I think it's cool if he wants to play Lullaby, WAWO and DSD, but not more than that.

bobben 10-20-2004 04:45 PM

Good that he doesn't let go!! Means that he still believes in Creed and their songs!

ctfan 10-21-2004 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by bobben
Good that he doesn't let go!! Means that he still believes in Creed and their songs!


I hear ya!!!!! :)

DekWannaBFlea 10-21-2004 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bobben
Good that he doesn't let go!! Means that he still believes in Creed and their songs!


Well generally when you create a new band you try to shed the image of your old band. Considering you are trying to establish your sound. If you play cover songs of your old band it looks like your just trying to live off the old band's success. Now this doesn't mean that you no longer believe in your old band, it just means you want progress with the thing you like to do (music), instead of looking to the past.

Ill ask you this, Would you want Audioslave playing Rage or soundgarden covers? I know i wouldn't. Morello playing Soundgarden's background? Cornell raping? OMG. IT's the same with creed/Alterbridge/Mayfield 4. They are trying to establish a sound that isn't creedish because creed is no more!

kariyanine 10-21-2004 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Lithium
I have the answer to that: because it's MARK's songs, your lyrics... Not your songs! I think it's cool if he wants to play Lullaby, WAWO and DSD, but not more than that.


I have a question for you Lith...... and I'm not disputing your argument that they are Mark's songs. But they are just as much Scott's, Flip's and Marshall's songs as they are Mark's. More so Mark and Scott because they wrote them (together). If Scott wants to play Creed songs on tour then so be it. To tell the truth if Scott is going to give me a two hour show of his solo stuff and Creed stuff I will be more than happy to shell out the money. There are plenty of solo artists or even bands that do their old stuff. Jimmy Page and Robert Plant do Zepplin stuff, Peter Cetera does Chicago stuff, Sting does Police stuff. even Slash and the VR guys do GNR and STP stuff.

kariyanine 10-21-2004 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DekWannaBFlea
Well generally when you create a new band you try to shed the image of your old band. Considering you are trying to establish your sound. If you play cover songs of your old band it looks like your just trying to live off the old band's success. Now this doesn't mean that you no longer believe in your old band, it just means you want progress with the thing you like to do (music), instead of looking to the past.

Ill ask you this, Would you want Audioslave playing Rage or soundgarden covers? I know i wouldn't. Morello playing Soundgarden's background? Cornell raping? OMG. IT's the same with creed/Alterbridge/Mayfield 4. They are trying to establish a sound that isn't creedish because creed is no more!


Dek that's a good point but Scott isn't forming a new band as far as we know. It looks like he will be touring as Scott Stapp not as part of a band. My last post had some very succesful solo artists (and band) that play some of their old band's material.

Soundslave 10-21-2004 04:34 PM

It isn't right for a different band to be playing the music which Creed originally performed. It really is the same as Myles singing Creed stuff, except it wouldn't sound as normal with Myles singing. Sure, another band can learn the music to Creed songs, but so can any cover band. If Stapp wants to perform Creed songs, he should play them acoustically himself.

DekWannaBFlea 10-21-2004 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kariyanine
Dek that's a good point but Scott isn't forming a new band as far as we know. It looks like he will be touring as Scott Stapp not as part of a band. My last post had some very succesful solo artists (and band) that play some of their old band's material.



It still applies, is the tea party the background of creed? No. Then they shouldn't play the songs with stapp.

TeriB19 10-22-2004 07:54 AM

My question is this. In the interviews Scott did in the spring on Kilborn, BDSSE and the like, he said the new stuff he is working on (with whomever he was working with) was going to be far different that the Creed stuff. His exact quotes escape me for the moment, but I remember something about your back speakers thumping, and we all joked that he was going to be Stapp Doggy Dog. How well would this new music mesh with him playing Creed stuff live? I can't see him doing Bullets, some sort of poppy-rappy-something or other, then Illusion, etc. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

cariocawlad 10-22-2004 03:28 PM

The truth is that Stapp is taking a long long time to show us something new! It's becoming very hard to be patience and wait! All we hear till then it's a music made for a soundtrack and nothing more...

All we can do is speculate. We don't know what kind of music he will realease cause he said to much things about it. We got rap, tea party and that other roadrunner band that I can't remember the name now. To resume: we haven't any clue about it. :wtf:

Bridge of Clay 10-22-2004 04:25 PM

Goneblind...

He never said he would do rap. Just coz 7Aurelius was working with him, people assumed it was gonna be rap... bullshit.

The Lithium 10-22-2004 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kariyanine
I have a question for you Lith...... and I'm not disputing your argument that they are Mark's songs. But they are just as much Scott's, Flip's and Marshall's songs as they are Mark's. More so Mark and Scott because they wrote them (together). If Scott wants to play Creed songs on tour then so be it. To tell the truth if Scott is going to give me a two hour show of his solo stuff and Creed stuff I will be more than happy to shell out the money. There are plenty of solo artists or even bands that do their old stuff. Jimmy Page and Robert Plant do Zepplin stuff, Peter Cetera does Chicago stuff, Sting does Police stuff. even Slash and the VR guys do GNR and STP stuff.

Dude, that's not a question!

The Lithium 10-22-2004 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TeriB19
My question is this. In the interviews Scott did in the spring on Kilborn, BDSSE and the like, he said the new stuff he is working on (with whomever he was working with) was going to be far different that the Creed stuff. His exact quotes escape me for the moment, but I remember something about your back speakers thumping, and we all joked that he was going to be Stapp Doggy Dog. How well would this new music mesh with him playing Creed stuff live? I can't see him doing Bullets, some sort of poppy-rappy-something or other, then Illusion, etc. I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

Things have changed now and now he says his new material will sound a lot like Creed.


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