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Chase 10-27-2005 06:43 PM
My Own Prison was 10 songs... people seem to forget that. Also, it took Trent Reznor to complete Nine Inch Nail's new record. It's quality, not quantity that counts.

titan9 10-27-2005 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Ana4Stapp
Sounds definitely POP...but ROCK???? Very very far... :rolleyes:

Well, I was comparing it to the stuff that I hear on Rock radio today. Maybe they play different, harder stuff on Rock radio over there, though. But compared to the stuff played on Rock radio today in the USA, TGD is closer to being a Rock song(because of the guitar work and chorus) than it is to being a Pop song.

Ana4Stapp 10-27-2005 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by titan9
Well, I was comparing it to the stuff that I hear on Rock radio today. Maybe they play different, harder stuff on Rock radio over there, though. But compared to the stuff played on Rock radio today in the USA, TGD is closer to being a Rock song(because of the guitar work and chorus) than it is to being a Pop song.


Actually here on radio is the same 'quality' as in the US... :eek:

SecretWeapon 10-27-2005 09:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by titan9
Well, I was comparing it to the stuff that I hear on Rock radio today. Maybe they play different, harder stuff on Rock radio over there, though. But compared to the stuff played on Rock radio today in the USA, TGD is closer to being a Rock song(because of the guitar work and chorus) than it is to being a Pop song.


Titan9 was only saying that it sounded like the "rock" songs
that are played on the pop stations in this day and age ....

as stupid as it is , there are several kinds of rock now ,
heck , Ryan Crapera ,or whatever his name is , is considered
"rock" in certain circles ....
so i see what people are talking about when they say RL
is pop , but to me , its rock . i would never insult Scott
by calling his music pop ..... but then , thats only my opinion,
(however right it may be :D ).

Ana4Stapp 10-27-2005 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Trimontana
is she? why my sister is posting with another account? i didnt want to be rude, just wondering how she/he knows that way to call me :confused: :cool:

Well I think ...hum..try to compare rocketqueen posts and creedsister post...they are very similar..(what means confusing posts)...lol :D

but anyway... maybe I m wrong...

Mrprophetman 10-27-2005 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Creed7352
i'm sorry but creed didn't take time out and do drum solos and guitar solos, so the going to the restroom comment is void...

the six minute thing, is that supposed to be a jab at ab too? cause they're not all six minutes long and you wouldn't even know having never checked out the cd...and if you've never checked out the cd, how can you say that ab sucks?

if you think that the music sucks, then you'll think stapp sucks since the music is made by the same musician's in alter bridge as it was in creed and stapp's new stuff sounds like creed (and in his mind is creed just with a new "backing band")... :rolleyes:

You are right...but I also saw Default as an opening act with Creed. Their guitarist launched into a five minute demonstration of his massive skill on the guitar and I decided it was time to take a piss. Sorry that just doesn't appeal to me.

Cause I listened to the entire freaking CD when it was posted at VH1...more than once. Nothing there I would care to spend my hard earned money on. Nice that VH1 gave me the opportunity to decide I wasn't gonna buy it. I don't live to hear a guitar solo in every song. The comment about the cover is because I have NEVER bothered to even pick it up to look at it. Why would I?

Creed never sucked. I still listen to everything Creed ever made. Even bought the Greatest Hits CD even though I already owned every song. I hear nothing of Creed in Alter Bridge, but apparently DJ's do, or they wouldn't use the term "Creed without Scott Stapp. I got something out of Creed's lyrics. Alter Bridge's songs say absolutely nothing to me of any substance. They have no message...but then that's my opinion

Like I said I actually LIKE the fact that Tremonti and Phillips are NOWHERE on that CD. I'm enjoying hearing some NEW musicians.

Mrprophetman 10-27-2005 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by The Lithium
I think you are truly missing out on good concerts then. 'Cause you're supposed to be frontrow in the middle! And if you are, there is no way you are going to the restroom in the middle of the show! :D

Any band that launches into a demonstration of guitar or drum skills I'm outta there. Did it at a 3 Doors Down show a year ago.

SecretWeapon 10-27-2005 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Mrprophetman
Any band that launches into a demonstration of guitar or drum skills I'm outta there. Did it at a 3 Doors Down show a year ago.


OH the humanity!!!

i am SO sorry some ppl with extraordanary talent wanted to do
WHAT PEOPLE CAME TO SEE THEM DO .

the lack of respect for talent in this generation is staggering .....
i wish people would realize that , although words can be quite meaningful,
THERE IS SOO MUCH MORE TO MUSIC THAN LYRICS .

HuMaN~ClAy 10-28-2005 01:09 AM
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Originally Posted by SecretWeapon
OH the humanity!!!

i am SO sorry some ppl with extraordanary talent wanted to do
WHAT PEOPLE CAME TO SEE THEM DO .

the lack of respect for talent in this generation is staggering .....
i wish people would realize that , although words can be quite meaningful,
THERE IS SOO MUCH MORE TO MUSIC THAN LYRICS .


^^^ Totally Agree...

when i go to a concert i expect to see a good display of talent from all members of the band, not just the singer... seeing a crazy guitar solo is always the best part of the night for me... i wish more people took bathroom breaks then so i'd get a better view...

RMadd 10-28-2005 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by The Lithium
I think you are truly missing out on good concerts then. 'Cause you're supposed to be frontrow in the middle! And if you are, there is no way you are going to the restroom in the middle of the show! :D


What did I do now? Commented on the fact that there is 10 songs on The Great Divide? Oh no, shoot me... Dude, relax, I didn't say anything negative about him.


No man, I didn't say any of that, you just assumed that. No, I sure as hell don't think not having Mark and Flip by his side is the only reason, and I never mentioned ANYTHING about Stapp sucking! I love his music, man! And I didn't say I was disappointed with the fact that there's "only" 10 songs on the album, once again you assumed I did.


Now, could you send me a quote where I actually say: "The Great Divide will suck", 'cause I sure as hell can't remember posting something like that.


Yes, and I'm positive about this album. You, on the other hand, are waisting negative energry on focusing on the fact that I am "negative".
And even if all of those things you just said about me were true. I was still right, eyy? I gussed 10 songs would feature, and I guessed right.
I don't believe you explicitly stated that you think Stapp's new album's going to suck. But, given your recent history of posts I've read, your comments generally attack Stapp & support AB. Many of the little nuances you mention and your word choice (i.e. "I mean, it has taken him forever to write these songs without Mark and Flip") tend to support my claim here. As such, I now tend to read between the lines in your posts, and they all seem to come out portraying Stapp in a negative light.

RMadd 10-28-2005 01:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Trimontana
is she? why my sister is posting with another account? i didnt want to be rude, just wondering how she/he knows that way to call me :confused: :cool:
she seems to like reinventing herself every now & then when a handful of people get a little ticked off at her (namely for typing)... she used to be ZION101 back when I joined just over 2 years ago (if I remember correctly, she'd type in all-caps), then reincarnated as creedsister.

The Lithium 10-28-2005 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by RMadd
I now tend to read between the lines in your posts, and they all seem to come out portraying Stapp in a negative light.
Then don't read between the lines. You'll keep on misunderstanding me if you do...

Trimontana 10-28-2005 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by RMadd
she seems to like reinventing herself every now & then when a handful of people get a little ticked off at her (namely for typing)... she used to be ZION101 back when I joined just over 2 years ago (if I remember correctly, she'd type in all-caps), then reincarnated as creedsister.

I wanna my Creedsister back!!!! :(

Dogstar 10-28-2005 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by HuMaN~ClAy
^^^ Totally Agree...

when i go to a concert i expect to see a good display of talent from all members of the band, not just the singer... seeing a crazy guitar solo is always the best part of the night for me... i wish more people took bathroom breaks then so i'd get a better view...
:laugh: Right on. I like it when a band strays from the album, whether the singer takes a different turn in the melody or the guitar parts are tweaked a little bit to give people something different. Bands that sound exactly like their album bore me. If I wanted the album sound, I'd listen to the album. When I go to a concert, I always hope that a band has taken the time to mix things up a little. Trent Reznor does this consistently. When I saw NIN in May, during Closer, they played a little bit of The Only Time during the instrumental part. It was wicked cool.

The Lithium 10-28-2005 01:50 PM
Yeah, I agree, with Kerri and HuMaN~ClAy! It's boring to hear the album version live. You want it to be at least a little different. And I think it almost is all the time. At least the band I've seen!

Mrprophetman 10-28-2005 02:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by HuMaN~ClAy
^^^ Totally Agree...

when i go to a concert i expect to see a good display of talent from all members of the band, not just the singer... seeing a crazy guitar solo is always the best part of the night for me... i wish more people took bathroom breaks then so i'd get a better view...

When I was a teenager I may have gotten some entertainment out of a crazy guitar solo. But people's tastes in music change. A crazy guitar solo now bugs the hell out of me. And not just Mark Tremonti's crazy guitar solos...anybody's.

HuMaN~ClAy 10-28-2005 03:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrprophetman
When I was a teenager I may have gotten some entertainment out of a crazy guitar solo. But people's tastes in music change. A crazy guitar solo now bugs the hell out of me. And not just Mark Tremonti's crazy guitar solos...anybody's.

*Edited* - meh, didn't like what i had here first...

instead i'm just gonna say that we have different reasons for listening to music...

Bridge of Clay 10-28-2005 04:31 PM
spelling
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrprophetman
When I was a teenager I may have gotten some entertainment out of a crazy guitar solo. But people's tastes in music change. A crazy guitar solo now bugs the hell out of me. And not just Mark Tremonti's crazy guitar solos...anybody's.
then maybe rock music isn't for you, grandpa!

LMAO!

Sorry, just kidding! I really couldn't resist... don't take it personally! :)

The Lithium 10-28-2005 05:32 PM
Hahaha, you crack me up, Marcos! :D

Rocketqueen 10-29-2005 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by RMadd
she seems to like reinventing herself every now & then when a handful of people get a little ticked off at her (namely for typing)... she used to be ZION101 back when I joined just over 2 years ago (if I remember correctly, she'd type in all-caps), then reincarnated as creedsister.
oh shutup nobody was madd at meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee as far as i know well yes i could,nt be no other my typing is a give away :) i see your point thank you for the download precious :D

Rocketqueen 10-29-2005 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Trimontana
I wanna my Creedsister back!!!! :(
oh da Gabs :hugs: :hugs: :kiss: sweetie it will just take time to get use too thats all

Mrprophetman 10-30-2005 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Bridge of Clay
then maybe rock music isn't for you, grandpa!

LMAO!

Sorry, just kidding! I really couldn't resist... don't take it personally! :)

I'm not a freaking grandpa, jerk. I just don't get all excited over someone playing a freaking guitar to show off. Apparently you do.

The Lithium 10-30-2005 01:54 PM
Come on, you know he was kidding!

Mrprophetman 10-30-2005 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by The Lithium
Come on, you know he was kidding!

I also read what he posts at other boards.....so, NO, I don't think he's kidding. He is entitled to his freaking opinion, why am I not allowed to have one?

Just cause he says he's kidding doesn't make it SO.

SecretWeapon 10-30-2005 02:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrprophetman
I also read what he posts at other boards.....so, NO, I don't think he's kidding. He is entitled to his freaking opinion, why am I not allowed to have one?

Just cause he says he's kidding doesn't make it SO.

mrprophetman , when you say you hate guitar solos ,it comes across
as ignorance. nothing in the world gets to me as much as it does when
people tell me they just want to hear the song ,not the solo.
You have to realize all the hhouuurrs of practice , and the God-given
talent it takes to play like that. as a guitarist , its important to me
to have some inspiration , and something to work for , and it hurts
when people dont appreciate all my passion, or the hours (and years)
of practice and hard work thats required to be able to play like that.
so when people ONLY want to hear a bunch of power chords thrown
together into a makeshift "song" it irritates me that some guys can
just be satisfied so easily. so if you want a bunch of simple , caveman
power chord- songs , then you can write them yourself , and let the
rest of the world enjoy talent and real music. I wish more people had
a fire for music, its lonely .......

The Lithium 10-30-2005 04:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrprophetman
I also read what he posts at other boards.....so, NO, I don't think he's kidding. He is entitled to his freaking opinion, why am I not allowed to have one?

Just cause he says he's kidding doesn't make it SO.
Dude, chill! Marcos is a great guy and I know him well enough to say that he didn't mean to piss you off. Read the quote carefully:

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bridge of Clay
then maybe rock music isn't for you, grandpa!

LMAO!

Sorry, just kidding! I really couldn't resist... don't take it personally! :)

He said "Don't take it personally", so don't. And Marcos is not a jerk! He's a guy with an opinion, (much like him), but I think he looks pretty objective at stuff and has good arguments when he doesn't. You can ask anyone who's been here for a while, and I'm sure they'll all say the same thing: "Marcos is a great guy", and I know he was only messing with you. Nothing serious, alright?

Mrprophetman 10-30-2005 06:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SecretWeapon
mrprophetman , when you say you hate guitar solos ,it comes across
as ignorance. nothing in the world gets to me as much as it does when
people tell me they just want to hear the song ,not the solo.
You have to realize all the hhouuurrs of practice , and the God-given
talent it takes to play like that. as a guitarist , its important to me
to have some inspiration , and something to work for , and it hurts
when people dont appreciate all my passion, or the hours (and years)
of practice and hard work thats required to be able to play like that.
so when people ONLY want to hear a bunch of power chords thrown
together into a makeshift "song" it irritates me that some guys can
just be satisfied so easily. so if you want a bunch of simple , caveman
power chord- songs , then you can write them yourself , and let the
rest of the world enjoy talent and real music. I wish more people had
a fire for music, its lonely .......

I'm not ignorant. I just prefer to get the message of the song rather than the music. You can think whatever you want...I really don't care.

Mrprophetman 10-30-2005 06:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lithium
Dude, chill! Marcos is a great guy and I know him well enough to say that he didn't mean to piss you off. Read the quote carefully:



He said "Don't take it personally", so don't. And Marcos is not a jerk! He's a guy with an opinion, (much like him), but I think he looks pretty objective at stuff and has good arguments when he doesn't. You can ask anyone who's been here for a while, and I'm sure they'll all say the same thing: "Marcos is a great guy", and I know he was only messing with you. Nothing serious, alright?

Sorry, I don't agree. If he didn't mean it, personally, he shouldn't have said it.

SecretWeapon 10-30-2005 08:37 PM
mrprophetman , are you going through a depresion or something?
hormones?
why are you against everyone ?

btw, the music is 1/2 the message of the song.
thats not just my opinion ,either. its the truth.
(the music (normaly) takes longer to write than lyrics do, btw.)

:)

Bridge of Clay 10-30-2005 11:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrprophetman
I also read what he posts at other boards.....so, NO, I don't think he's kidding. He is entitled to his freaking opinion, why am I not allowed to have one?

Just cause he says he's kidding doesn't make it SO.
dude... if you aren't a grandpa, then you're a pussy for not liking guitar solos.

Are you happy now???

If I say I'm kidding, I am. I don't have to bullshit you or anyone else on this board. If you're in doubt coz I had to edit that post, it's because I fixed my spelling and NOT to add I was kidding...which I really was.

Take a chill, a pill of good humor and enjoy the board.

Bridge of Clay 10-30-2005 11:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrprophetman
I also read what he posts at other boards.....so, NO, I don't think he's kidding. He is entitled to his freaking opinion, why am I not allowed to have one?

Just cause he says he's kidding doesn't make it SO.
Thanks Lith for BOLDING it.

Anyway... are you a stalker??? :wtf

Mrprophetman 10-31-2005 11:45 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SecretWeapon
mrprophetman , are you going through a depresion or something?
hormones?
why are you against everyone ?

btw, the music is 1/2 the message of the song.
thats not just my opinion ,either. its the truth.
(the music (normaly) takes longer to write than lyrics do, btw.)

:)

No depression. I'm not against everyone. I have an opinion that some of you don't like. Get over it.

Mrprophetman 10-31-2005 11:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bridge of Clay
dude... if you aren't a grandpa, then you're a pussy for not liking guitar solos.

Are you happy now???

If I say I'm kidding, I am. I don't have to bullshit you or anyone else on this board. If you're in doubt coz I had to edit that post, it's because I fixed my spelling and NOT to add I was kidding...which I really was.

Take a chill, a pill of good humor and enjoy the board.

I don't consider your humor funny. I have my opinion and you don't like it. I really, really don't care what you think, to be honest with you.

Bridge of Clay 11-01-2005 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Mrprophetman
I don't consider your humor funny. I have my opinion and you don't like it. I really, really don't care what you think, to be honest with you.
Boo Hoo

I'm so upset right now :(

The Lithium 11-01-2005 07:21 AM
Seriously Mrprophetman... How old are you? I mean... If someone called me a grandpa I wouldn't be upset, 'cause I'm 17. I mean, it's just so way off of track it's funny. (And I think that's what Marcos meant by saying what he said). And you got very upset... Now... Is it because your age and you fear to become a "grandpa" 'cause your old?

Ana4Stapp 11-01-2005 08:05 AM
I dont get it...Theres no sense for you coming here and show all your bad temper saying Marcos is a jerk just because he clearly did a joke about the grandpa. You took it seriously when theres no reason for doing that...
Chill dude! ;)

The Lithium 11-01-2005 08:08 AM
See... Everyone around here thinks Marcos is a great guy!

Ana4Stapp 11-01-2005 08:10 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bridge of Clay
Boo Hoo

I'm so upset right now :(


Lithium is right, Marcos -You are a GREAT guy! :hugs:

Bridge of Clay 11-01-2005 01:10 PM
YAYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!

Thanks to Mrprophetman I'm having the time of my life!

lol

SecretWeapon 11-01-2005 06:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bridge of Clay
YAYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!

Thanks to Mrprophetman I'm having the time of my life!

lol


Do I smell sarcasm? :D


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