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Bridge of Clay 01-12-2006 08:32 PM

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how come is it surprising? There's nothing new about it, everybody knew it all along except for those who refused to believe the obvious. The only difference is that now it's coming from Stapp's mouth...

Ana4Stapp 01-12-2006 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bridge of Clay
how come is it surprising? There's nothing new about it, everybody knew it all along except for those who refused to believe the obvious. The only difference is that now it's coming from Stapp's mouth...


Youre right...but I said it was surprising and also a good thing that HE finally admitted those things.

Bridge of Clay 01-12-2006 08:42 PM

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I was referring to other people Ana, not you! :)

Ana4Stapp 01-12-2006 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Bridge of Clay
I was referring to other people Ana, not you! :)

;)

Tremontixriffs 01-12-2006 08:58 PM

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I am a huge Tremonti fan I am very pissed that in this interview disses creeds music, i believe it to be totally fucked up!He can say what he wants but for him to diss creeds music is to diss the fans that paid to listen and to support them.Alterbridge is not as good of a band as creed was, they will never be, just like Stapp will never be either. They are at their best collectively! Lets just put the whole thing to rest because if I have to hear Mark dissing Creed I'd rather listen to Audioslave and forget about a crap band called alter bridge..I am so pissed!


"I haven't listened to a Creed song in years," he confesses. "I can't stand it. I wouldn't want to play those songs again. It was a complete nightmare"

Mark you Suck ! Time to grow up! If you can't stand creeds music, you should defintely stop listening to the crap music your making with a poser rock star wannabe because it's way worse!

titan9 01-12-2006 08:59 PM

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I've always suspected it, I've always thought it was true, but I did not know for sure. Just because you think something is true, that's not always the case. That is why, in the past, I have said that if he has a problem, he needs to get help. Obviously, he did/does have a problem, and he did get help for it. Kudos to him for realizing his weakness and seeking help for it.

Bridge of Clay 01-12-2006 09:07 PM

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yeah, kudos for him to always point his finger to someone else to justify the consequences of his own choices.

Stappishot 01-12-2006 09:43 PM

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I am very happy for stapp and admitting that he has a problem, anyone who's anyone could see that. I just hope he can stick with it. I really do. I have a bestfriend that's fighting the same thing. I just hope stapp gets better, and I will pray that he does. The tour will keep him busy enough I think, so he wont think about drinking to much cause he'll be to busy having fun on stage again! :D

titan9 01-12-2006 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bridge of Clay
yeah, kudos for him to always point his finger to someone else to justify the consequences of his own choices.


Who is saying that he is still pointing his finger at someone else? He has admitted in the past that he has made mistakes, and did the same in this interview. The only thing I can find in this interview to back up your comment is when Stapp said that "his problems weren't what broke up Creed". And you know what? I think he's probably right. Yes, his problems probably contributed to the break-up, but I do not think that was the main reason for it. Mark was obviously moving in a different direction than Stapp was after HC. Even if Stapp had no drinking problems, no drug problems, who is to say that Creed would still be around today?

Steve 01-12-2006 10:46 PM

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This really doesn't have to do with the topic everyone is discussing here but from the article:

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"It's funny," says Tremonti, "how many people come out of the woodwork after a relationship is severed and say how much they hated your singer. Every band that ever opened for us pretty much said, 'Yeah, that tour was great, we loved opening for you guys, but Scott never even looked at us.'

That's exactly the story a friend of mine told me when his band opened for Creed back in 1997. :) Again, back in 1997! Before Creed was even popular!

TheGreatDivide 01-12-2006 11:32 PM

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I miss Creed now after reading that..... im gonna listen to MOP again. BTW I'm gonna write a screenplay for the movie :)

Higher_Desire 01-12-2006 11:54 PM

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it's funny. the more i learn about stapp, the more i can't help but think that we're related or something. besides the fame, it seems like we've been through the exact same things. he wanted to end his life because of creed, and my life was saved because of creed. drugs, alcohol, depression, abuse... damn. i've been there and it ain't pretty. i would love to sit down for just five minutes with scott and talk to him and hug him. let's just say that i understand exactly why he said absolutely nothing during the whole ordeal when we had so many questions. aside from everyone thinking they can help, becuase you know they can't, people going through this type of thing think that they are alone. can you imagine what the media would have done if they had gotten wind of it while it was going on? jeez. that definetly wouldn't have been pretty. i'm glad he's taking the recovering so seriously now. especially with things like having a sobriety coach on the road with him.

all i can really say is, scott, i love you man. keep up the good work and i hope to see you on the road!


H-D :pimp:

Chase 01-13-2006 12:11 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Bridge of Clay
yeah, kudos for him to always point his finger to someone else to justify the consequences of his own choices.


ummmm... no.

Vliegs 01-13-2006 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Tremontixriffs
I am a huge Tremonti fan I am very pissed that in this interview disses creeds music, i believe it to be totally fucked up!He can say what he wants but for him to diss creeds music is to diss the fans that paid to listen and to support them.Alterbridge is not as good of a band as creed was, they will never be, just like Stapp will never be either. They are at their best collectively! Lets just put the whole thing to rest because if I have to hear Mark dissing Creed I'd rather listen to Audioslave and forget about a crap band called alter bridge..I am so pissed!


"I haven't listened to a Creed song in years," he confesses. "I can't stand it. I wouldn't want to play those songs again. It was a complete nightmare"

Mark you Suck ! Time to grow up! If you can't stand creeds music, you should defintely stop listening to the crap music your making with a poser rock star wannabe because it's way worse!



Okay so I need some clarification here....you're a self proclaimed fan of Mark right? And then I see your signature...which looks to be Stapp's signature way of taking veiled potshots at his former band mates.

Then you go on to diss a perfectly decent, in fact awesome man, who's now the lead singer of Mark's current band. I'm confused as to where Myles has shown a poser rock star attitude. If you're referring to his appearance at the end of the movie Rock Star....it's called "acting." Something he has not done at all with his performances on tour in AB. B/c he's genuine.

Tell me how Creed could have been at their best collectively if Mark, the person you profess to be a rather big fan of, wasn't able to fully utilize his talent and chops on the guitar b/c of the restraints put on him from the genre Creed was classified with and the musical style that the record company and Stapp felt they needed to stick with to sell the most albums. Yes I once loved the music too...I may again someday...but that's not the route that Mark wanted or needed to take anymore. He's had full creative reign with his skills and style since Creed dissipated and has truly shown what he's capable of. Fantastic guitar riffs and melodies that are hard core rock and still hail back to the days of classic rock as well. Yet now he sucks b/c he can't listen to the songs from a band he was in anymore b/c the frontman of that band has soured his whole viewpoint of that time with his now admitted abusive, delirious and downright egomaniacal acts?

I think it's sad that Stapp has reduced Mark's viewpoint of Creed to such a low state. Not just Mark's however....TONS of Creed fans who finally started to see the truth, a very long time ago, that was admitted in this article and realized what was going on now see the music in a different light b/c of Stapp's actions. And Mark sucks for saying what hundreds to thousands of fans have already said?

*edited to add*

I think this was a very good move on Scott's part to FINALLY fess up to some of this stuff that people have known and suspected for years. It clears the air of some things. He's still taking potshots with it but hey....zebra can't change it's stripes completely. I really do applaud him for admitting what he has in this article. I think this may have started out as a forced effort from Windup as damage control after seeing the debacle on Casino Cinema but those are only my own suspicions. This is the most honest article I've ever seen from Scott and I loved it! I sincerely hope he's able to go through the tour completely dry with the help if Jaclyn and his sobriety coach b/c it will only do him that much better.

Creed7352 01-13-2006 03:36 AM

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and the talk of people not helping him with the drinking...it's tough to do when the guy locked himself up in trailers and backstage dressing rooms to himself and rode on a separate bus on the weathered tour than the rest of the band.


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