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lol i'm a poo head.....oh that one hurts! :rolleyes: :laugh: i agree he is far from done and the first audioslave album kicks a lot of bootie. however both badmotorfinger and superunknown for me are clearly better hard rock albums (albums before and after not quite as good) and the totd project and his solo album are better again. the emotion in say hello to heaven is just amazing and he wrote some amazing songs on that album. well i have the solution to this whole cornell v vedder debate, everyone just listen to "hunger strike" on the totd album and have them both! :D |
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Pearl Jam's "best stuff" is not in the nineties. Their commercial "decline" is due to the fact that they did not sell out to Sony interests. They distributed fewer albums with less fanfare a la the Dead.
McCready and Gossard are miles ahead of Thayil. McCready plays an eclectic mix of funk and rock with a blues tinge that finds its home in quiet ballads. Thayil, although magnificent, was much more straightforward and hard-hitting. Where Thayil would lay down a hard rock riff, McCready would play off Gossard's tempo and Vedder's vocals to create an atmosphere not seen (nor appreciated) during the era. Catchy riffs and style do not equal talent. McCready is the shit. Play Nothingman, Yellow Ledbetter, the solo in Alive, Down, the entire Mad Season album, TotD, etc. Pearl Jam stuck to their roots, stayed true to the art and play to their fans and their fans only. No other band on that list does that or did that. They are a dying breed of rock musicians with no commercial interest and only that of providing quality music to those who truly appreciate it while inspiring development and rational thought. Ten and Vs. caught the eye of the public, but the public failed to grow with the band and adopted the Spice Girls and Third Eye Blind as well as numerous other "post-Grunge" bands with no talent. Soundgarden, STP, and to a certain extent, AIC existed in the moment and died with the moment. Nirvana was a product of another revolution and paved the way for grunge. Pearl Jam embodied and continue to embody grunge in their undying angst and style. That is why they kick ass. |
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I guess i didn't understand what you were trying to say, my bad. |
I'll add a couple of things.....firstly critics are now seeing an underated album like no code is amongst pj's best. secondly i'ld disagree with jango and say that binaural and riot act do not lay a candle to what came before that. some of the matt cameron stuff on those two albums are filler and a half IMO.
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yeah.... I'd hardly say that Binaural or Riot Act are excellent albums. I own the former, and there's only a couple songs on there to which I can stand giving a listen (the same goes for Vitalogy). That's not to say that those songs suck, tho. I don't own Riot Act, but I've got a few friends who do, and they absolutely hate it. And Jango, I don't think they've stuck to their roots. If they had, then every other album they've got would be as awesome as Ten was. Instead, now they're trying to fill the void that Rage left by making political commentaries galore.
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MEh, I always thought System of a down was filling that huge viod that Rage left, considering Sej works with Tom on the axis of justice. |
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Stone Temple Pilots made it pretty good for me even i am not a grunge fanatic
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once again i agree with kerri....lol. pearl jam would easily be a more successful touring band than say nickelback or good charlotte and yet if one listened to the radio only, one would think pearl jam didn't exist anymore. as for their lyrics the political commentaries dont' really bother me even if politically i'm not exactly on the same page as ed. binaural suffered cause the production by tchad blake IMO was crappy (yes jango i know what a binaural is and why they did it) and riot act isn't as consistent as previous offerings. ten is not pj's best album though, the dave a days (vs and vitalogy) or the jack irons days (no code and yield) probably produced the best albums.
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1. Pearl Jam 2. Soundgarden 3. Nirvana 4. Alice in Chains 5. Stone Temple Pilots I would've actually put Mudhoney on that list as opposed to STP. |
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When last I checked there were only fans on this board, not critics. Morello is a technical genius. Psych and funk are two terms I'm well aware and neither was touched by Thayil, but keep trying. When you make an actual counterpoint, let me know. |
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You missed the point completely, i don't even think i have to reword everything. Lets just agree to disagree. |
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