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HuMaN~ClAy 10-25-2005 11:26 PM

Album Cover and Track List
 
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well, here's the album cover.... mass hated "Stapp Pose" and all! lol... i dunno y this pisses people off haha, i love it!

got this all sent to me from the scott stapp e-news letter...

here's the track list;
1. Reach Out
2. Fight Song
3. Hard Way
4. Justify
5. Let Me Go
6. Surround Me
7. The Great Divide
8. Sublime
9. You Will Soar
10. Broken

only 10 songs :( ... i thought people were saying it was going to be much longer... oh well, i'll still be buying it haha.

Rocketqueen 10-25-2005 11:39 PM

thank you stop bitching 10 songs is just as good as 16 Justify :) is a fave :jam: :jam: :jam: :jam:

The Lithium 10-26-2005 08:28 AM

It's funny, 'cause in another thread I guessed that the album would feature about 10 tracks, and NOT more than 11!! I mean, it has taken him forever to write these songs without Mark and Flip, which means it problably was pretty hard for him. And took him a long time. That's why I thought the album wouldn't feature that many songs. Someone else said about that he had heard something about 12. I guess I was right! :D

Rocketqueen 10-26-2005 09:59 AM

well yes :D but im damn sure really damn sure that it may have took longer with out the other too there and lets not forget it took alot of time as well for other reasons and damn i think considering it all went by fast :jam: :jam: This Album Is Going Kick Ass Harder :D than i wish to kick yours :D

Rocketqueen 10-26-2005 10:00 AM

and considering that A LOT MuheHAHA

titan9 10-26-2005 10:24 AM

Hmm, interesting track titles. The Fight Song? Isn't that a Sanctus Real track? Let Me Go? Sounds like 3 Doors Down. :laugh: But seriously, as long as the 10 tracks he has on there are good(and I already know that 2 of them are at least decent/good), I don't mind that there are only 10 songs on there. Afterall, Big Dismal's debut CD only had 10 and it was pretty good, imo. It's the quality that counts, not the quantity.

ctfan 10-26-2005 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by The Lithium
I mean, it has taken him forever to write these songs without Mark and Flip, which means it problably was pretty hard for him. And took him a long time.


Wow, you really like to toot your own horn dontcha??

And you know all of this how?? Just a wild guess on your part, or did Stapp tell you all that personally??

Doesn't matter to me how many tracks are on the cd. I'm gonna enjoy it! :D

Rocketqueen 10-26-2005 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by titan9
Hmm, interesting track titles. The Fight Song? Isn't that a Sanctus Real track? Let Me Go? Sounds like 3 Doors Down. :laugh: But seriously, as long as the 10 tracks he has on there are good(and I already know that 2 of them are at least decent/good), I don't mind that there are only 10 songs on there. Afterall, Big Dismal's debut CD only had 10 and it was pretty good, imo. It's the quality that counts, not the quantity.

HAAAAAAAAAAAAA :roll: ya know what i forgot about 3 doors down title to let me go untill you reminded me HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA its a sight im sure is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better than that Let Me Go :D :jam: :jam: HAAAAA its more Like The Real Version 3 doors down is like so genaric to what stappys will be

Creed7352 10-26-2005 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rocketqueen
thank you stop bitching 10 songs is just as good as 16 Justify :) is a fave :jam: :jam: :jam: :jam:



wow...he's not bitching..just expressing that he was hoping for more..i was hoping for more too. i do with every artist. why? cause i like their music and want more. no reason to be a dick about it. :D

HuMaN~ClAy 10-26-2005 12:49 PM

well.. Rocketqueen and ctfan... seems like you 2 have a little pent up rage...

Rocketqueen i dunno why you've just been lashing out, i don't see how I could have offended you in any way :S... and ctfan, lith' wasn't tooting anyones horn... he just stated a logical fact that 3 can write faster than one...

but anyway... this album cover and track list really has me pumped for stapp... i was kinda gettin bored, but it's great to see he's on top of his game

bobben 10-26-2005 01:14 PM

If all the songs are over 4 minutes long then I'm happy... A 50 minute long album in total is more than enough! ODR is 55 so...

Creed7352 10-26-2005 01:27 PM

yeah, short albums suck...i.e. 45 minute albums a la default...lol

HuMaN~ClAy 10-26-2005 01:52 PM

hahaha that's true... with creed/alter bridge and i'm hopeing stapp 10/11 songs would be more like 14 songs from another band... that's why all these guys kick ass haha, no standard 3:30 min songs!

RoffeDH 10-26-2005 01:58 PM

Damn! Why does he do the album cover just like popstars! Don't like when people are on the frontpage of their CDs, then the face sells, not the music

The Lithium 10-26-2005 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Creed7352
yeah, short albums suck...i.e. 45 minute albums a la default...lol

Nickelback's third album "Silver Side Up" is just like 40 minutes. Only 10 songs long. Really good album, though! I can't understand why they didn't put the song Slow Motion on there, 'cause the song was recorded. But they waited with that release until The Punisher soundtrack arrived.

tremonti4life04 10-26-2005 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by HuMaN~ClAy
only 10 songs :( ... i thought people were saying it was going to be much longer... oh well, i'll still be buying it haha.



6 more songs would have taken him 12 more years...

Agent D 10-26-2005 08:09 PM

The cover is horrible. The photo on his site is much, much better.

Dogstar 10-26-2005 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RoffeDH
Damn! Why does he do the album cover just like popstars! Don't like when people are on the frontpage of their CDs, then the face sells, not the music

Well, at least it's a profile, sort of :D...

Dogstar 10-26-2005 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by tremonti4life04
6 more songs would have taken him 12 more years...

:laugh: Seriously, though, I'd rather have 10 quality/shorter songs than an overdone, bloated 16-song album that bores me.

Mrprophetman 10-26-2005 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RoffeDH
Damn! Why does he do the album cover just like popstars! Don't like when people are on the frontpage of their CDs, then the face sells, not the music


My guess would be that any person producing their first solo CD or a band producing their first CD would probably want their picture on the cover. Maybe that's where Alter Bridge messed up. Is their picture even on their CD? Maybe its on the back, but I wouldn't know I've never checked it out.

Pop stars do full on head shots. The Great Divide cover is nothing like that. If you didn't already know who he was, you certainly wouldn't be able to identify him from that picture.

Mrprophetman 10-26-2005 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by The Lithium
It's funny, 'cause in another thread I guessed that the album would feature about 10 tracks, and NOT more than 11!! I mean, it has taken him forever to write these songs without Mark and Flip, which means it problably was pretty hard for him. And took him a long time. That's why I thought the album wouldn't feature that many songs. Someone else said about that he had heard something about 12. I guess I was right! :D


But he DID do it....and no help from his backstabbing ex-bandmates either. I actually like the fact that I'm not hearing those two playing anything. I usually go the the restroom when they start in with the guitar solos and drum solos in concert. I bet every song isn't six minutes long either....six minute songs don't get played on the radio....yep...I think that's right.

ctfan 10-26-2005 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by HuMaN~ClAy
well.. and ctfan... seems like you 2 have a little pent up rage...

... and ctfan, lith' wasn't tooting anyones horn... he just stated a logical fact that 3 can write faster than one...

but anyway... this album cover and track list really has me pumped for stapp... i was kinda gettin bored, but it's great to see he's on top of his game


No, no, I'm not angry at anyone. What I meant was, how does Lith know for certain that "it was probably hard for him" writing the lyrics to his new cd without his ex bandmates. I don't remember Stapp ever saying that. But I do remember him saying that he wanted to take a break. :)

Agent D 10-26-2005 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrprophetman
My guess would be that any person producing their first solo CD or a band producing their first CD would probably want their picture on the cover. Maybe that's where Alter Bridge messed up. Is their picture even on their CD? Maybe its on the back, but I wouldn't know I've never checked it out..


Okay, that's the most foolish thing I've heard all day. AB did not "mess up" and they took the more artistic route. And yes, their pictures are on in the inside of the cd. :rolleyes:

Creed7352 10-27-2005 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrprophetman
But he DID do it....and no help from his backstabbing ex-bandmates either. I actually like the fact that I'm not hearing those two playing anything. I usually go the the restroom when they start in with the guitar solos and drum solos in concert. I bet every song isn't six minutes long either....six minute songs don't get played on the radio....yep...I think that's right.


i'm sorry but creed didn't take time out and do drum solos and guitar solos, so the going to the restroom comment is void...

the six minute thing, is that supposed to be a jab at ab too? cause they're not all six minutes long and you wouldn't even know having never checked out the cd...and if you've never checked out the cd, how can you say that ab sucks?

if you think that the music sucks, then you'll think stapp sucks since the music is made by the same musician's in alter bridge as it was in creed and stapp's new stuff sounds like creed (and in his mind is creed just with a new "backing band")... :rolleyes:

Trimontana 10-27-2005 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent D
The cover is horrible.


Very true. A nice artwork would have looked much better insteaf a picture of himself. Its a boring cover too.

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Seriously, though, I'd rather have 10 quality/shorter songs than an overdone, bloated 16-song album that bores me.

You're rite kerri. But 2 of these songs "Relearn Love " and " TGD" are bad/average songs, so there are 8 songs left still to see if they are worth it. Not trying to be negative or nasty but it doesnt seem rite for me what we didnt listen to it yet.

guesswhosback 10-27-2005 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by The Lithium
It's funny, 'cause in another thread I guessed that the album would feature about 10 tracks, and NOT more than 11!! I mean, it has taken him forever to write these songs without Mark and Flip, which means it problably was pretty hard for him. And took him a long time. That's why I thought the album wouldn't feature that many songs. Someone else said about that he had heard something about 12. I guess I was right! :D


yeah yeah you're god we get it :rolleyes:

HuMaN~ClAy 10-27-2005 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Trimontana
You're rite kerri. But 2 of these songs "Relearn Love " and " TGD" are bad/average songs, so there are 8 songs left still to see if they are worth it. Not trying to be negative or nasty but it doesnt seem rite for me what we didnt listen to it yet.


Actually "Relearn Love" isn't in the track list so it's not gonna be on the cd... but TGD and Surround Me are 2 of the 10 songs we've already heard... i'd call them both average, but not bad... maybe a little above average?

Trimontana 10-27-2005 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by HuMaN~ClAy
Actually "Relearn Love" isn't in the track list so it's not gonna be on the cd... but TGD and Surround Me are 2 of the 10 songs we've already heard... i'd call them both average, but not bad... maybe a little above average?


Thanks for the correction, man :D
I just posted my opinion, for me those 2 are bad/average. I dont expect much from this album; just an average poppy album...it doesnt sound rock to me at least.

HuMaN~ClAy 10-27-2005 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Trimontana
Thanks for the correction, man :D
I just posted my opinion, for me those 2 are bad/average. I dont expect much from this album; just an average poppy album...it doesnt sound rock to me at least.


no problem... and yea i agree, it does sound more pop like than normal... but then again i've only heard 2 of the songs so that doesn't tell me very much, and relearn love was pretty pop like too.

Rocketqueen 10-27-2005 01:38 PM

:rolleyes: clean out your ears i can hear where Relearn Love has a pop zing But not this one Geeeeesh >> :poke: <<

Trimontana 10-27-2005 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Rocketqueen
:rolleyes: clean out your ears i can hear where Relearn Love has a pop zing But not this one Geeeeesh >> :poke: <<


Well man, its not definitely ROCK either. Sorry to say that but its very far to sound like rock.

Rocketqueen 10-27-2005 02:22 PM

Gabs well its far from pop too :D its Rock N Roll Babes and Sounds Great Lets Not Divide it K :)

RMadd 10-27-2005 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by The Lithium
It's funny, 'cause in another thread I guessed that the album would feature about 10 tracks, and NOT more than 11!! I mean, it has taken him forever to write these songs without Mark and Flip, which means it problably was pretty hard for him. And took him a long time. That's why I thought the album wouldn't feature that many songs. Someone else said about that he had heard something about 12. I guess I was right! :D

seriously, Lith, you need to control your anti-Stapp rhetoric bullshit & try & contribute something positively for once. you think not having Mark & Flip is the only reason why it's taken him so long? Jesus Tapdancing Christ, you're naive. Most bands end up writing (or at least partially writing) more than the number of actual songs that appear on the album. Or, in the very least, if they only write 10 or 11, they usually refine them a great deal.

There's also the matter of rehearsing for live performances immediately after (and also before) the album comes out. It's not as though it took Stapp a full 4 years to write new material, or even 1 1/2 years since they officially split. So, let's see, 1 1/2 years really isn't all that long. I mean, the man evidently had some tricky personal issues to deal with. And just because it takes awhile to write new material doesn't mean you suck: how many years was it between Boston's 2nd & 3rd, 3rd & 4th, and 4th & 5th albums (if you don't know, it's 8 years every time)?

It also remains to be seen how much goneblind contributed to the songwriting process, but I would guess that, just as with Creed, Stapp wrote the lyrics, and the other guys laid down the rhythm section parts. You also don't know how long most of the songs are. It's one thing if they're all 3:00, but I would imagine they probably run somewhere between the 4:30 & 5:30 range, giving you a good 45-50 mins of music, which is more than a lot of bands these days provide of original material.

titan9 10-27-2005 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Trimontana
Well man, its not definitely ROCK either. Sorry to say that but its very far to sound like rock.


It's not that far off from what is on Rock radio today. If I had to define Relearn Love, it'd probably be Pop-Rock. It's got a bit of a poppy edge, but it is closer to being a Rock song than it is to being a Pop song.

As for The Great Divide, that's a Modern Rock song, just like every other song on Rock radio today.

The Lithium 10-27-2005 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mrprophetman
But he DID do it....and no help from his backstabbing ex-bandmates either. I actually like the fact that I'm not hearing those two playing anything. I usually go the the restroom when they start in with the guitar solos and drum solos in concert. I bet every song isn't six minutes long either....six minute songs don't get played on the radio....yep...I think that's right.

I think you are truly missing out on good concerts then. 'Cause you're supposed to be frontrow in the middle! And if you are, there is no way you are going to the restroom in the middle of the show! :D

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Originally Posted by RMadd
seriously, Lith, you need to control your anti-Stapp rhetoric bullshit & try & contribute something positively for once.

What did I do now? Commented on the fact that there is 10 songs on The Great Divide? Oh no, shoot me... Dude, relax, I didn't say anything negative about him.

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Originally Posted by RMadd
you think not having Mark & Flip is the only reason why it's taken him so long? Jesus Tapdancing Christ, you're naive. Most bands end up writing (or at least partially writing) more than the number of actual songs that appear on the album. Or, in the very least, if they only write 10 or 11, they usually refine them a great deal.

No man, I didn't say any of that, you just assumed that. No, I sure as hell don't think not having Mark and Flip by his side is the only reason, and I never mentioned ANYTHING about Stapp sucking! I love his music, man! And I didn't say I was disappointed with the fact that there's "only" 10 songs on the album, once again you assumed I did.

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Originally Posted by RMadd
So, let's see, 1 1/2 years really isn't all that long. I mean, the man evidently had some tricky personal issues to deal with. And just because it takes awhile to write new material doesn't mean you suck: how many years was it between Boston's 2nd & 3rd, 3rd & 4th, and 4th & 5th albums (if you don't know, it's 8 years every time)?

Now, could you send me a quote where I actually say: "The Great Divide will suck", 'cause I sure as hell can't remember posting something like that.

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Originally Posted by RMadd
long most of the songs are. It's one thing if they're all 3:00, but I would imagine they probably run somewhere between the 4:30 & 5:30 range, giving you a good 45-50 mins of music, which is more than a lot of bands these days provide of original material.

Yes, and I'm positive about this album. You, on the other hand, are waisting negative energry on focusing on the fact that I am "negative".
And even if all of those things you just said about me were true. I was still right, eyy? I gussed 10 songs would feature, and I guessed right.

Ana4Stapp 10-27-2005 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Trimontana
Well man, its not definitely ROCK either. Sorry to say that but its very far to sound like rock.


AGREED! ;)

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It's not that far off from what is on Rock radio today. If I had to define Relearn Love, it'd probably be Pop-Rock. It's got a bit of a poppy edge, but it is closer to being a Rock song than it is to being a Pop song.

As for The Great Divide, that's a Modern Rock song, just like every other song on Rock radio today.

Sounds definitely POP...but ROCK???? Very very far... :rolleyes:

Trimontana 10-27-2005 06:15 PM

^^Ana i cant love ya more ;)

Trimontana 10-27-2005 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rocketqueen
Gabs well its far from pop too :D its Rock N Roll Babes and Sounds Great Lets Not Divide it K :)


Gabs??? Do i know at all to call me that way??? Not trying to be rude but just few people call that name and just one in here, Creedsister.

Ana4Stapp 10-27-2005 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Trimontana
Gabs??? Do i know at all to call me that way??? Not trying to be rude but just few people call that name and just one in here, Creedsister.


Take it easy, trimontana....Creedsister = rocketqueen ...well... :rolleyes: I think....lol

Trimontana 10-27-2005 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ana4Stapp
Take it easy, trimontana....Creedsister = rocketqueen ...well... :rolleyes: I think....lol



is she? why my sister is posting with another account? i didnt want to be rude, just wondering how she/he knows that way to call me :confused: :cool:


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