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All right. I have to say something.
EVERYONE seems to blame Scott for the breakup. We all need to remember one thing: THERE ARE ALWAYS 2 SIDES to EVERY STORY!!! I'm not saying Scott was innocent here, but I don't believe Mark didn't have any part in whatever happened. It takes two... Also, please think of this situation this way: Have you ever been in a situation where you and another person were in an argument, and they were spreading rumors about you, and you decided to be the better person and just go on instead of saying anything. There's way more to this whole thing than we know. |
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I'm just trying to figure out what the problem is supposed to be. Mark is doing his band's album and Scott is doing his solo project. There's not really a problem.
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Hi all. First post to this site.. but not new at all to Creed fan sites or this site really. Lemme first say I've been a HUGE fan of Creed's music for a long time and still am. Even got to meet the band in person during a sound check near the end of their last tour (well, all except Stapp).
That said, I have to say I agree with much of what was said about Stapp in the first post. That is to say I have the same "impression" of him as a person. As a singer I think he's awesome, but from what I've seen (and yes heard) of him over the past few years.. I've got a very bad vibe about him. Now, obviously Ferez1 shouldn't have resorted to name calling and all of the other things I think he was bated into.. (one of the first replies he got was "I think you should DYE" omg!!!).. I agree with much of what he is saying. As a fan I find this very troubling. In my opinion, much of Creed's negative perception out their is directly because of Stapp and his attitude. I have no doubt it also played a major role in the break-up too. Can't be certain but it's my impression. I mean a bb is meant for sharing ideas and thoughts. When you ask someone to "prove" his ideas by writing an essay on everything that lead to this idea... c'mon. Ferez1 wrote somethings he's seems to regret but I think others have posted some just as offensive replies in my opinion without adding any value whatsoever. Anyway, this has always been a great site for Creed info. I hope to post here when I can. |
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In all fairness, we have really only heard from Mark's camp ... nothing from Scott's. The only somewhat reliable info we've gotten has come from Mark to some fans to message boards and from Mark's brother. Again ... (no offense to the Mark fans) ... but this is very possibly slightly biased information. I, for one, do not appreciate hearing ... "Scott got the boot" or "What Mark said was the most politically correct thing he could have said." Again ... all from Mark's side and Scott not there to defend himself. Scott has said nothing to indicate a riff between him and the others ... nor do we have any of his family members or friends here to defend him. Right now, I think the playing field is a bit uneven and I do believe that there is a lot more to all of this. I do not believe there is any one person to blame. Another thing I'd like to say is that it really amazes me when I hear (or read) people saying that Mark has been held back with Creed. Held back??? Creed has made Mark and the others very, very rich people ... not to mention well known and the envy of a number of other bands (which is probably the reason for most of the negativity towards them). The success that Creed has had is truly remarkable and each and every one of them should be incredibly grateful. Held back ... I think not! |
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You don't think other people here have posted anything that has added value? Well, I beg to differ. Others of us are simply trying to point out that the opinions of Scott and/or Mark are just that .... OPINIONS!!!! None of us know these guys personally. The things that have been said here are being put out there as if they are facts ... and they're not. I don't think it is unreasonable to ask for some examples of why someone feels the way they do ... especially when they obviously feel so strongly. That person said they wanted to discuss it ... okay ... then discuss it! Don't just come here and give a completely one-sided opinion, call everyone names (like us "idiots" who like Stapp) and then not be ready to back up what you've said. |
I think we're getting new people because they just wanna trash Scott. Personally Ferez1, keep your opinions to yourself. If you really liked Creed, you wouldn't have comeon to trash him like that.
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You have no doubt, huh? Were you in the room when all these decisions were made? Please...Where were all you *fans* when there wasn't all this controversy or difference of opinion? I think Alisha's right. You're here to stir up trouble. And I'm sorry, but people shouldn't talk out of their asses without being able to back up their opinions. If you can't, then keep it to yourself. |
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Can you explain what you mean by attitude....what is it about his attitude that you have such a problem with? Knowing what I know now.....it seems that some members wanted to do things that maybe pushed the envelope...and some maybe didn't want Creed to go in that direction.....so they are doing their own thing on their own for a while.....why does it have to be some dirty feud between members? |
It amazes me how immature and ridiculous people can be. You come on here FEREZ1 and "think" your opinion really matters. Well let me tell you it is old news. People like you have been on here before to trash and stir up crap, get a new hobby :rolleyes: Just what did you think you would do coming to a CREED website and trashing the lead singer? You knew EXACTELY what you were going to get and I think that is so lame. I can tell by your bad grammer you are not from the states, go find another website to complain to you are boring us.
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First, if you want to start good discussions you may do so but present them in a positive mannor. If you want to flame the band or the members of the band, do so somewhere else.
This discussion has been brought up several times. Yes you are new to the board, but the problem is the regulars here have dealt with this so many times in the past it gets annoying to see. Bringing up the same topics floods up the message board. It gets annoying. Please try the search function of the board and find if a conversation similar to yours has already been started before. (Note: this is just a word of advice for you and everyone else too) Now to adress your posts: Quote:
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Wat u on about, not from the states?! wat has that to do wiv anything? Just because i disagree wiv u don't mean that i'm borin u! I'm from England, u know, that little country that always has to clean up your stupid yankie mess!
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Um...Please :rolleyes: What the hell does that have to do with Creed or this board? Get a damn clue |
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You know, you guys should learn to not be so protective and accept other people's point of view. Do you see me tellin people to shut up, or to go and die! Very mature! My post was strong worded, only because i feel that strongly about the issue. Tellin me to die and so forth just cuz you disagree is a real sign of maturity you know!
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Ya well, I think I hear some crumpets and tea calling , so get lost ;)
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One overzealous person said to die, so get a grip. I'm not condoning that, but you invited this when you came in flaming the band with very little to back up what you perceive as fact. You brought this on yourself. No one's being *protective* of anything. We're simply asking that you back up what you say, and so far, you haven't. Your post was rude in addition to strong-worded. Strong-worded would be fine if you could back up what you said. But you didn't.
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I don't need facts to back it up! Its a bloody opinion! Thats what this is, a place to air your opinions!!!?? You dont agree? I don't say i have all the answers but i'm trying to make up for it and be polite, and all you morons keep insultin me.
I used to like creed, but then i discovered Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, Nirvana etc... you know, REAL rock bands, not this watered down, manufactured rubbish you all listen to. In fifty years time, when these bands are remembered for being the geniuses they are, i guarentee all you idiots will look back and say, "god, that guy was right! i used to listen to some right crap!" You are probably all pre-pubescent kids who think creed are the shit!! A real rock fan knows that Creed are an embarrassment to the rock scene, and their insults are deserved. You want facts to back that up? Look at all the best albums lists. No creed mate! In fifty years time no one will remember them. They are just a fad, romanticized by naive youngsters who think Stapp is the next Robert Plant. Creed have no respect amongst their peers, because real musicians know who the phonies are! They laugh at them because they see them for the joke they are, and selling millions of records dont make you the bleedin Beatles, just ask Britney Spears. |
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Girl, chill out! Geez, you so over react when Stapp is the topic. Let the guy speak his mind, it's not like his opinion will change yours. |
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Ok, we know you don't like Stapp. But did he ever do something against you? At least meet the guy to make an opinion. No need to be so harsh on him and other people. If you don't like him, fine. But stop caring/worrying about him. |
Oh man... just look at all the attention this Ferez-dude(tte) is gettin' :rolleyes:
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Oh Cool! Look who's back :rolleyes:
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Invisible Kid, no one is *glazing over* anything. Reread the original post and the queries and the responses before you go shooting off your mouth.
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Harsh? Should i be happy that everyone here has been hammering me for giving an opinion. If they don't agree they tell me to die or what have you! Let me ask you, if so many people displayed such a complete ignorance of your opinion, and insulted you just because you believe differently, would your posts be friendly? I said i was sorry for the way i came across, and they still insulted me, i'm merely sticking up for my opinion which just because it isn't popular doesnt make it less worthy of this message board.
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Stop clouding the issue. Several people, myself included, have responded to what you posted as a backup to your opinion and you have yet to address that. You are zeroing in on ONE post. Stop avoiding the issue and answer the queries and responses that were directed at you. If you can't, then KEEP IT TO YOURSELF. |
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I know! That's why I said very early on that we all should have just ignored it. But that's so hard to do when you know someone is talking out of their ass! You just feel compelled to speak up! I said 2x I wouldn't be responding anymore ... and here I am again! |
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I know, I see your point. But the way you posted leads people to this kind of reaction. Perhaps if you had been easier with your words everybody would get your point and have a nice discussion. You knew you'd cause trouble posting like that, and I think that was totally unnecessary. |
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There is a tactful way to voice your opinion, you showed your ignorance by attacking him, and then basically acting as if you are better or something, give me a break. There have been several people (NOT ALL, BUT SOME) who have come on this board, and we have heard loud and clear that they don't like Stapp, or Creed, or what have you, but they went about voicing their opinion the right way, and we agree to disagree. You are acting like a child, and therefore you are getting what you deserve. Voice your opinion with respect and get it in return........Shout off insults.............and you can expect the same right back at ya! |
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Is it just me, or does anyone else take a bit of offense to that? And by the way, there isn't one of us on this board that will look back and call ourselves "idiots" for being Creed fans. Daaa. That's why we are here, and we all have bonded here. We've lost nothing, and we've gained ohhh soo much. |
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MY insults have only come as a result of being unneccessarily attacked by those who disagree. I never said it was fact, i just gave an opinion. If i dont like stapp, i wont sit and say how much i love him. Your hostility to me right from the start was uncalled for. If you read my original post you will find no insults to fellow creed fans, just a short opinion from myself. Th response was hurtful, i meant no disrespect to anyone, i wanted your opinions on the STAPP ISSUE!! Responding with things like die, or get lost is not an opinion on the content of my post. You all took it personally and attacked me as a person because you thought i was an idiot. Re-read my first post again! Did it warrant the torrent of abuse that came my way?
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Ya! Thats why I posted this ;) (Quote) by JulieLovesCreed Ya well, I think I hear some crumpets and tea calling , so get lost (Quote) |
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