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Bridge of Clay 08-10-2004 02:05 PM

Stapp's version on the Creed break-up!
 
Finally THE VOICE agreed to give an interview. I'm bolding the parts I found interesting and I'm posting the whole thing in case you're interested...

Stapp: I Am a Christian
by Mark Moring
posted 08/09/04

In Creed's almost ten years together—including a few where they were one of the hottest rock bands on the planet—nobody ever asked lead singer Scott Stapp if he was a Christian. Many asked if Creed was a Christian band, and their reply was always no—even though some of their lyrics included a message of faith. But no one ever directly asked Stapp about his beliefs. Well, we asked him the other day, and Stapp says he's glad no one asked him about it until now. Read on to find out why.

In this exclusive interview with Christian Music Today,
Related:

• Passion: Track Listing

Stapp discusses his faith journey, Creed's recent breakup, and his solo career, which officially kicks off with the August 31 release of The Passion of the Christ: Songs, a new album featuring multiple artists—including Stapp, P.O.D., Third Day, Lauryn Hill, Kirk Franklin, MxPx and others—who were inspired by Mel Gibson's landmark film. Stapp's contribution to the project, a song called "Relearn Love," is the first single off the album, hitting radio airwaves this week.



First things first: Why did Creed break up?

Scott Stapp: Mark [Creed guitarist Mark Tremonti] and I had been working together for the last ten years. There comes a point with any collaboration like that where you start having other interests creatively. I was moving in one direction musically, and as a guitar player, Mark wanted to move in another direction. That was essentially the reason we broke up. Those feelings actually started happening right after Human Clay (1999), and we went ahead and made Weathered (2001) together. [Tremonti and Creed drummer Scott Phillips went on to form a new band, Alter Bridge, whose debut album releases on Wind-Up Records on August 10.]

Sounds like it was a friendly break-up.

Stapp: When something like that happens, people want to try to find some dirt and make it more of a soap opera. But I think we both walked away with the door still open, if we want to do something together again. So yeah, I would call it a friendly break-up.

How did you get involved in the Passion songs project?

Stapp: They flew me out to a private screening of the film last summer, and to meet Mel Gibson, to kind of get a vibe on what was going on.

So, the film moved you to the point where you felt like you had to write a song?

Stapp: Actually, there was already a song percolating inside of me, so to speak, concerning a renewal in my heart. Interestingly, my personal life and my spiritual walk were kind of coming full circle around the same time I was asked to be involved in the project. I had been shedding all the callousness and the weathered state that I had been in, personally and spiritually, even prior to seeing the film. Seeing the film just kind of closed the door and allowed that song to be born.

What had triggered those spiritual changes in your life?

Stapp: A lot of personal things. I was hurt and beaten down. Five years ago, I had a divorce that I didn't really want. I was so busy with Creed that I don't think I ever really dealt with that emotionally. She [his ex-wife] elected not to be involved in my son's life, leaving me as a single father, and I was really worried about my little boy [Jagger, who turns 6 in October]. And there were other things that came along in the trappings of fame, things that hurt some of my relationships. So when I finally had time to reflect on everything, I was broken down to the point where I had no other way but to look up. I couldn't handle it all. I was asking a lot of questions—of myself, of God—looking for answers.

My dad always said I was hard-headed, that it would take something like that to wake me up spiritually, and I guess it did. My heart had gotten so beat up that I didn't have anything left to give. I was emotionally and spiritually dried up, so I was just searching for God. I reached out to my pastor and my father for some guidance. I was really soul searching and, I guess, on my path to coming home spiritually. And once that process began—and I'm still going through that process, and probably will for the rest of my life—that's when things started changing in my life. I started making some proper decisions, getting things in order. It's kind of like cleaning up your house. I was looking for direction for what God wanted me to do—and that's when I got a call about The Passion.

Prior to this recent renewal, how would you have described your faith?

Stapp: I'd have called myself a struggling Christian who was trying to find holes in everything he had been raised to believe. I was a doubting Thomas. I was raised in a climate where I believed in God because I was afraid of going to hell—and I didn't think that was the right way to fall in love with somebody. I always believed in God and Christ, but I was in rebellion—trying to make my relationship with God fit into my life instead of making my life fit in with him. I was stubborn.

It just took all of that to come to a screeching halt, to get to the point of having nothing, for me to finally realize, Hey, what are you fighting with this for? Until then, I hadn't claimed my faith as my own; I had just grown up with it. But I finally got to that point after years and years of running from God. Christ stepped in when I asked him.

When you first saw The Passion of the Christ, how did it affect you?

Stapp: At first, I was saddened and disheartened. I couldn't believe this is what Christ had to go through. I knew the story, but I was seeing it through different eyes. It was not just a Bible story that I had heard since I was four years old. It made sense to my life as a man, and as a father and as a friend and as a son. I was shocked that someone loved me so much that they would do this for me. I also got angry at various times during the film.

Angry at what?

Stapp: At how Christ was being treated. But then that would turn into a humility about understanding the sacrifice. I had a whole gamut of emotions—love, peace, anger, humility, sadness. I left the film exhausted; I was drained. But also, I was happy, because it helped me get a visual picture of what I finally understood.

Did you meet Mel Gibson?

Stapp: Yes. He was excited that I was interested in the songs project. He said, "I don't know much about music, but my kids love your band." I had a little demo of "Relearn Love" and I played it for him, and he said, "Listen, man, I'll leave that stuff up to you." He was like, "This is your experience, and I want you to express it however you want."

So you were writing "Relearn Love" even before you saw The Passion.

Stapp: Yes, and The Passion came along and gave me focus. It was kind of God's final confirmation that I was moving in the right direction.

Can you give me a specific example of how that "relearned love" is manifesting itself in your life?

Stapp: It's simple for me: It's giving without expecting anything in return. Prior to this, the way that I loved people around me, I always expected something—even if that was just expecting them to treat me like I treated them. But now I understand that real love is just giving without expecting anything. That's what love is to me, and that's what I feel that Christ showed us.

On Creed's website, you had answered an FAQ in part by writing, "Who are we to say that being a Christian is the only way to heaven?"

Stapp: Well, I can honestly tell you, I didn't write that.

But your name was on it.

Stapp: [Turns to tell his manager sitting nearby to call his record label and "tell them there's something on the Creed website that I didn't write … again." Then he addresses Christian Music Today again.] I didn't write that. I would never answer a question that way. That sounds like something the owner of my record company [Wind-Up Records] would say.

[Stapp, clearly perturbed at this revelation, says something else to his manager, then addresses us again.] I would never say that, dude, because that's not what I believe. We'll be sure to make a note of that. That stuff happens all the time, because my label, you know, they're about making money. They don't want to disenfranchise people. Creed wasn't a Christian band, but I would never insinuate or say anything that would make that kind of a statement. I'm glad you told me about that.

So, where do you stand in regards to that statement?

Stapp: Oh, I'm a Christian. I was a Christian in Creed, but nobody ever asked me.

Bridge of Clay 08-10-2004 02:06 PM

...

You've been really open in this interview. Is that because I'm with the Christian media? Or would you answer these questions similarly for the mainstream media?

Stapp: The nature of my answers are a lot different now that I'm no longer with Creed. I'm a solo artist now, and I don't have a band to hide behind. So when someone asks me if I'm a Christian, I have to say yes, because I am. But do you know I was never asked in 10 years if I was a Christian personally? We were only asked if Creed was a Christian band.

Well, you never got interviewed by us!

Stapp (laughs): But I'm glad nobody asked, because my life wasn't right with God. The Christian community latched onto a lot of my music, because there were a lot of things about my struggle they related to. But I didn't really want to come out and be identified as a Christian, because I didn't want to be a hypocrite, because my life wasn't right. I didn't want to make any kind of public profession until I felt like my heart was right.

I've since learned that my life's never gonna be right, and I'm always going to be scrutinized and looked at under a microscope. And it took me, since I was 17 and left home, running from God, to now, as a 30-year-old man, when I honestly feel like I've come full circle and my heart's finally in the right place. I'm still going to make mistakes, but I don't have any problems with publicly professing my faith now. It just took me a long time to get to the right place in my relationship with Christ.

It's just crazy how things have come full circle for me as a solo artist. I kind of look at everything that happened with Creed as a preparation—me going through things to get my life ready for God's plan. It's been a journey and a learning experience.

So, are you now a "Christian artist," or an artist who happens to be a Christian?

Stapp: I'm an artist who's a Christian, because I don't write music to be evangelical. Now, if that happens, it happens. My dad's a dentist, and he's a Christian. Now, does he put in Christian fillings? No, that's just part of his three-dimensional life. Now, there are people that are Christian artists, because they have a purpose to be evangelical for Christ. I don't feel I've been called to that yet. Now, that could change. There's no telling what kind of call God will put on my life.




Copyright © Christian Music Today.

musiclover291 08-10-2004 02:31 PM

What can I say he is a class act!! No finger pointing, no blame just a general statement. It takes alot of courage to be so open about your faith and for that he will have many blessings.

revisfoot 08-10-2004 03:30 PM

Scott really is a good guy. Like you said, music lover, there was no finger pointing, no name-calling. He's truly a very good-hearted person. And so many people think he's incredibly egotistical and conceited...it takes a person of humility to profess what he just said. Props to you, Stapp.

Dogstar 08-10-2004 03:55 PM

Marcos, thanks for posting that! I'm glad he finally addressed everything!

TeriB19 08-10-2004 04:53 PM

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My dad's a dentist, and he's a Christian. Now, does he put in Christian fillings
LMAO!!! :roll:

Thanks for posting this Marcos. Interesting reading.

I'mRational 08-10-2004 06:54 PM

That is a great interview. Seems to me the the break-up is more in part of God's purpose than just a bunch of guys going in different musical directions.

musiclover291 08-10-2004 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by I'mRational
That is a great interview. Seems to me the the break-up is more in part of God's purpose than just a bunch of guys going in different musical directions.


Very good point you made the more I am reading about Stapp I see that he has been grasping with his faith all the way from the beginning with MOP and its so beautiful to see him come full circle in his life and faith. It is such a wonderful thing. So for all the mistakes he made, all the bad that he his gone through he has come to be open about his faith and closer to God. He couldn't ask for any more.

aussiecreeder 08-10-2004 08:49 PM

ummm but doesn't seem to fit in with the reasons the band splitting, mark and flip have stated it was more of a personality clash. great interview though and he was very gracious.

Higher_Desire 08-11-2004 03:06 AM

That was a great post! Thanks for sharing that interview with us. I though Scott had been asked if he was Christian (as well as the rest of the guys) who said something about they all had thier beliefs but didn't label themselves as anything. That's also very interesting about the website posting something he didn't even say. And best of all... he sounded like a Creed reunion sometime in the future may be possible! :D Or at least, it seemed to me.


H-D :pimp:

aussiecreeder 08-11-2004 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Higher_Desire
That was a great post! Thanks for sharing that interview with us. I though Scott had been asked if he was Christian (as well as the rest of the guys) who said something about they all had thier beliefs but didn't label themselves as anything. That's also very interesting about the website posting something he didn't even say. And best of all... he sounded like a Creed reunion sometime in the future may be possible! :D Or at least, it seemed to me.


H-D :pimp:


seems like that from his take on it although it doesn't seem to compute with what has come from the alter bridge camp.

Bridge of Clay 08-11-2004 09:30 AM

after reading this I think a Creed reunion is possible in the future after AB tour and break before the 2nd album.

My admiration for Stapp reached a new level after this. Go Stapp! You're right, I do hope it's God's call! :) God bless you!

creedsister 08-11-2004 09:57 PM

:jam: :jam: :jam: :jam: :jam: :jam:

creedlvr 08-14-2004 12:53 AM

I can't believe that I haven't been on here for a while and I come back to find all these wonderful articles to read from Stapp. Thanks to everyone who's posted them. They've almost made me cry. (Of course, I'm pregnant ... so it could just be the hormones!!!)

adparaiki 11-14-2005 04:31 PM

exactly
 
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Originally Posted by revisfoot
Scott really is a good guy. Like you said, music lover, there was no finger pointing, no name-calling. He's truly a very good-hearted person. And so many people think he's incredibly egotistical and conceited...it takes a person of humility to profess what he just said. Props to you, Stapp.


Scott is and never was the ego maniac people wanted him to be. It was all rumours started from people jealous of Creed's success. I wouldn't mind guessing it was started by another band or record label trying to stop the machine that Creed was.

Scott Stapp is one of the nicest guys you would ever hope to meat.
He does not have any ego problems what so ever.
Exactly the opposite, he seems quite a shy guy actually who is always glad to great fans and will talk to you like he is one of your mates.

He is awesome.

ok That is the truth

rainfall 11-14-2005 06:39 PM

I am not a huge Scott Stapp fan and never have been I however can't live a moment with out music. It gives me peace.
In reaction to that article I would like to say that I truly hope that this is who Scott Stapp has honestly become, because this man is of great knowledge of his own weakness's and I don't believe you can fully know your own soul with out realizing your weakness. Continue to be honest in everything you do Scott and you shall not fail.

uncertaindrumer 11-15-2005 09:26 AM

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Scott is and never was the ego maniac people wanted him to be.

This article is full of blatant lies and contradictions which were shown to be just that later on. He is an ego-maniac and has lots of problems.

Sort of like most celebrities... But he is more annoying.

Ana4Stapp 11-15-2005 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Higher_Desire
. And best of all... he sounded like a Creed reunion sometime in the future may be possible! H-D :pimp:


Not a chance!

Bridge of Clay 11-15-2005 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Bridge of Clay
after reading this I think a Creed reunion is possible in the future after AB tour and break before the 2nd album.

My admiration for Stapp reached a new level after this. Go Stapp! You're right, I do hope it's God's call! :) God bless you!


geez... my past haunts me!!! :eek:

Could I have been wronger???

I'll just keep up with the "God bless you!" part.

Ana4Stapp 11-15-2005 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Bridge of Clay
geez... my past haunts me!!! :eek:

Could I have been wronger???

I'll just keep up with the "God bless you!" part.


:rolleyes: Lol!!!!

uncertaindrumer 11-15-2005 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Bridge of Clay
geez... my past haunts me!!! :eek:

Could I have been wronger???

I'll just keep up with the "God bless you!" part.



lol, I was wondering what you would think about this these days... All I WANT to say is on the tip of my tongue... * **** *** **! hehehe. props to s/he who can figure that out.

Bridge of Clay 11-15-2005 08:51 PM

dude... piece of cake!

it's "I told you so!"...

I don't have to justify.... lol... I'd better don't touch on the topic anymore. If I were a politician, that'd be the end of my campaign.

geletmote 11-15-2005 09:11 PM

HOw do we know the AB camp isnt luying?? just bcoz there AB and everyone loves them doesnt mean there saints and wateva they say is true??

Bridge of Clay 11-15-2005 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by geletmote
HOw do we know the AB camp isnt luying?? just bcoz there AB and everyone loves them doesnt mean there saints and wateva they say is true??

Hmmm... who's alone and who's not?

Let me see... who, from Creed is with stapp and who's with AB? Who back-up AB's version?

On the Stapp side we have:
1- Scott Stapp
2- ____________ (TBD)

On the AB side, the following people remained with them or back-up their version:
1- Tremonti
2- Flip
3- Brian
4- Brett Hestla
5- Ken Fermaglich (tour manager)
6- Jeff Cameron (band manager)
7- Jeff Hanson (band manager)
8- roadies, techs and band staff, including security guards.

Who's often invited to be part of other artists' projects?

Who's never appears in other artist's projects?

Who's respected within the music business?

Who's often find confusion in back stage and is disliked within the music business?

The End
================================================== ============

Anyway... that was harsh but I still like Stapp's music and I hope from the bottom of my heart in this time he spent alone he had a change of heart and spirit to become a better person who now works hard to rebuild his image upon the ones that disliked him.

titan9 11-15-2005 10:22 PM

When did Brett Hestla say that he backed up their story? I haven't read any Dark New Day interviews, so maybe he said something in one of those? But to the best of my knowledge, he hasn't really said anything about Creed and the break-up. Please tell me when he said this, so I can read the interview for myself.

Geletmote does have a point, though. We are not 100% certain that everything AB/those close to Creed say is the absolute, 100% truth. Does it appear that it is the truth? Yes, but we do not know for sure. That is why I personally prefer to not judge Stapp or any other musician by what so and so says about them. I will judge'em based on what I think of their music.

Bridge of Clay 11-16-2005 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by titan9
When did Brett Hestla say that he backed up their story? I haven't read any Dark New Day interviews, so maybe he said something in one of those? But to the best of my knowledge, he hasn't really said anything about Creed and the break-up. Please tell me when he said this, so I can read the interview for myself.

Geletmote does have a point, though. We are not 100% certain that everything AB/those close to Creed say is the absolute, 100% truth. Does it appear that it is the truth? Yes, but we do not know for sure. That is why I personally prefer to not judge Stapp or any other musician by what so and so says about them. I will judge'em based on what I think of their music.

Chris (evyllsummer) met him, asked him about it and Brett backed-up AB's side of the story.

It's up to you to believe it or not. But Chris is reliable and he doesn't have any reason to lie or make it up.

uncertaindrumer 11-16-2005 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Bridge of Clay
dude... piece of cake!

it's "I told you so!"...

I don't have to justify.... lol... I'd better don't touch on the topic anymore. If I were a politician, that'd be the end of my campaign.


lol, yes, your political career is OVER... lol

uncertaindrumer 11-16-2005 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by titan9
When did Brett Hestla say that he backed up their story? I haven't read any Dark New Day interviews, so maybe he said something in one of those? But to the best of my knowledge, he hasn't really said anything about Creed and the break-up. Please tell me when he said this, so I can read the interview for myself.

Geletmote does have a point, though. We are not 100% certain that everything AB/those close to Creed say is the absolute, 100% truth. Does it appear that it is the truth? Yes, but we do not know for sure. That is why I personally prefer to not judge Stapp or any other musician by what so and so says about them. I will judge'em based on what I think of their music.


Ever the politician... lol

titan9 11-16-2005 09:40 AM

No, just the person that doesn't believe everything he is told and wants to see/hear it for himself. ;)

IamFilthy 11-16-2005 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by uncertaindrumer
This article is full of blatant lies and contradictions which were shown to be just that later on. He is an ego-maniac and has lots of problems.

Sort of like most celebrities... But he is more annoying.


Don't believe everything you read,... no matter what the majority. As far as I'm concerned Tremonti and Flip stabbed Scott in the back. Granted, Creed was having their problems but Mark and Flip are the ones that gave up on Creed,...Scott WAS and IS diehard Creed untill the end. I believe they could have worked out their problems, eventually, with some time off. Stapp and Mark had been friends since high school and went on this wild rollercoaster ride that was Creed together from the begining. Stapp was having his own personal problems on the Weathered tour and after,..and to have your two best friends abandon you when he probably needed them most makes them pricks in my book. Thats why I feel no matter how great of a guitarist Mark is, in the end AB will never become as successful as Stapp solo. Karma has a way of working these things out.

uncertaindrumer 11-16-2005 11:52 AM

Stabbed in the back? By leaving? You need some help on vocab. That is not stabbing in the back... it's... leaving. I'VE done that in a couple of bands. You don't leave a band because someone is nice and wonderful and really doing his best to be a team player. You leave because he (or they) is (are) obnoxious moron(s). So maybe they were wrong but that IS why they left.

Steve 11-16-2005 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by IamFilthy
Don't believe everything you read,... no matter what the majority. As far as I'm concerned Tremonti and Flip stabbed Scott in the back. Granted, Creed was having their problems but Mark and Flip are the ones that gave up on Creed,...Scott WAS and IS diehard Creed untill the end. I believe they could have worked out their problems, eventually, with some time off. Stapp and Mark had been friends since high school and went on this wild rollercoaster ride that was Creed together from the begining. Stapp was having his own personal problems on the Weathered tour and after,..and to have your two best friends abandon you when he probably needed them most makes them pricks in my book. Thats why I feel no matter how great of a guitarist Mark is, in the end AB will never become as successful as Stapp solo. Karma has a way of working these things out.


Hrmm, Stapp has said in an interview that Creed was over after Human Clay. So how does that make him "diehard Creed" if he himself says its over before it actually was? Sounds like Stapp gave up as well... hrmm...

IamFilthy 11-16-2005 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve
Hrmm, Stapp has said in an interview that Creed was over after Human Clay. So how does that make him "diehard Creed" if he himself says its over before it actually was? Sounds like Stapp gave up as well... hrmm...



If you remember correctly, he said that AFTER they had broken up. He was pissed and that was his jab back at the situation. Now if you remember what he said right BEFORE the breakup,..he said he was excited about Creed working on there next album and DVD release. Anyway you slice it, THEY gave up.

Bridge of Clay 11-16-2005 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by IamFilthy
Don't believe everything you read,... no matter what the majority. As far as I'm concerned Tremonti and Flip stabbed Scott in the back. Granted, Creed was having their problems but Mark and Flip are the ones that gave up on Creed,...Scott WAS and IS diehard Creed untill the end. I believe they could have worked out their problems, eventually, with some time off. Stapp and Mark had been friends since high school and went on this wild rollercoaster ride that was Creed together from the begining. Stapp was having his own personal problems on the Weathered tour and after,..and to have your two best friends abandon you when he probably needed them most makes them pricks in my book. Thats why I feel no matter how great of a guitarist Mark is, in the end AB will never become as successful as Stapp solo. Karma has a way of working these things out.

no, they did take time off, they paid for Stapp's rehab, they did everything they could to help him but instead, Stapp turned his back on them e decided to move to Miami.

Stapp is die-hard Creed? So why he said he'd rather be a football athlete better than a singer? Why do you say Mark and Flip should've done more if Stapp didn't do anything at all ? Actually he did... he layed on the sofa and watched ESPN...

Bottom line is Stapp abandoned the others too.

And watch what you say about karma... it may work for Stapp too.

PS: I like your nick, it comes from the song that Mark wrote! ;)

Bridge of Clay 11-16-2005 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by IamFilthy
If you remember correctly, he said that AFTER they had broken up. He was pissed and that was his jab back at the situation. Now if you remember what he said right BEFORE the breakup,..he said he was excited about Creed working on there next album and DVD release. Anyway you slice it, THEY gave up.

No, they didn't. That was another lie. Well, maybe he believed there was hope... but the odds were low and he knew it.

Mark said during NAMM (November 2003) it wasn't gonna happen. And someone didn't let Wind-Up release a DVD coz his performance wasn't good enough.

He just kept the Creed ball rolling to look good and fool the fans... myself included.

uncertaindrumer 11-16-2005 09:05 PM

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If you remember correctly,

Steve always remembers correctly. :D

IamFilthy 11-16-2005 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by uncertaindrumer
Steve always remembers correctly. :D

Awww,..thats sweet. Secret man crush? :sex:

geletmote 11-16-2005 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by IamFilthy
Awww,..thats sweet. Secret man crush? :sex:


lol

Mrprophetman 11-16-2005 11:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IamFilthy
Awww,..thats sweet. Secret man crush? :sex:



Oh....now that one made me laugh out loud.

ctfan 11-17-2005 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by uncertaindrumer
Stabbed in the back? By leaving? You need some help on vocab. That is not stabbing in the back... it's... leaving. I'VE done that in a couple of bands. You don't leave a band because someone is nice and wonderful and really doing his best to be a team player. You leave because he (or they) is (are) obnoxious moron(s). So maybe they were wrong but that IS why they left.


I'm gonna take a wild guess and say, you were the obnoxious moron. :D Mark and the gang made their bed, now they are gonna have to lie in it.


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