:laugh: that's awesome steve!!

:crest:

That is pretty hilarious, lol. :laugh:

If you watch the higher Video clip, scott is actually wearing the belt with the symbol..

:(

Creed is still good ... man... they wouldn't "hate it" if it wasn't bad. We must know like 10% of what happened...

i remember when i went to the concert last january, when me and a buddy were standing outside waiting in line to meet them after the show, there was some dude who came up across the street and, altho i didn't hear what he had to say, the way he walked off the what mark said afterward made it seem as tho he was pissed off at mark & flip for abandoning stapp (as that guy might've put it)... anyway, mark thought it was pretty funny, and i can't really recall what he said about stapp tho

I do remember that Guitar Magazine now that I think about it (with the meaning of the crest), but it never flat out said it meant peace. hmmmm, Gabriel here anywhere?????
Roffee, did you see AB yet?