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Here is an article that gives a little insight on Stapp
Flip recently gave this interview with the Ohio Freetimes Weekly and gave some rather good insight on the breakup and Stapp's role in it. Good article: CLICK HERE
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I think Alter Bridge is a terrific band, but I'll ner like them as much as I did Creed. |
That barritone voice and Stapp's lyrics are what drew me into Creed. Creed will always rule in my book. AB can't even compare with the passion that Scott put into those songs. I miss Creed soooo much. Life will never be the same. Just glad I have what they did give.
Sorry the boys feel that way, it's really a shame. |
What a bunch of crap. It figures this was posted by a pitter. They only time they post is when they have something negative to "share" about Scott. At least he has apologized for his part in the break-up. The remaining members could have a little class and do the same instead of putting it all on Stapp. The more I read about those guys, the less respect I have for them...and at this point, it's pretty much zero!
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Such hostility farmgirl. You really should lighten up a little bit. Relax.
It's not good for you to be so negative. |
oh come on if they are all saying the same slightly veiled negative comments then what does that tell you? take off the rose-coloured glasses please........
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Could be the same looking at the other side.. |
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You're right, farmgirl...stapp has apologized...and it's a sad statement that it's still not enough for some... As for anyone else apologizing...don't hold your breath... Quote:
That is the KEY phrase out of the whole interview on anything that should have been said publically about stapp...he should have left it there...like the saying goes...if you can't say something nice then it's better not to say anything at all... as for you TRX...posting this as you did was a most vindictive move...talk about stirring the pot?...your spin on this article at this bb was done intentionally to cause friction... |
WOW, why so negative guys?
A band broke up, maybe they had a fight maybe not. They were big, there was a lot of pressure, what does it matte? Maybe they are not real friends right now, does it matter? NO, give them time, they were friends in the past and they will be friends again in the future. |
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Given that this is the title of the article, I think this whole thread should've been posted in the Alterbridge forum. It's only causing discontent being posted in the Stapp forum. I'm moving it to the proper forum. |
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What "spin", Ann? I posted it on many boards because it's a new interview with information about stapp and the creed breakup. You posted about it and made a link for it in another thread somewhere else too. Does that mean that you're also a 'most vindictive, pot stirring friction-causer' ? Come on "Ann", grow up and stop trying to paint everyone else to be the bad guy. I did the same thing that many other people do every day, including yourself. Why does that make me wrong? Thank you for redirecting the thread Terri. What would we do without on-the-ball mods? :stappchic |
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You know exactly what i mean..maybe the thread being moved and the differences in title could be a clue? and yeah..i posted a link to it on another bb...altho, i chose to focus on the anectdote (sp) of Larry the Cable Guy, 'cause i found his comment sarcastically funny...when i made my post...it was NOT refering to stapp... If you were focusing on just what Flip had to say in general...you would have posted it in the right forum to begin with... you're right, people do this everyday...post articles and interviews to share news...but it's also easy to manipulate it for your own purposes too...as for painting anyone as a "bad guy"...far from it...i just DO NOT agree with your methods, TRX... |
Insight on Stapp - this is posted in the wrong forum!!
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No, it's not, Lith. It's Scott P., a member of Alter Bridge, making the comments, so it was moved here.
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Dig, Susan...dig.
I did nothing of the sort. Of course, that won't stop you from trying to put your SPIN on whatever you think I do. I didn't even give any commentary. Give it a rest. I introduced the article and posted the article. You just don't like what you read so you try to make it something personal with me. Childish. |
I'm getting really sick of all this bitching and in fighting. To be honest I don't give a stuff who or what caused the break up of Creed. In the end what difference does it make?
I've never been a person that has "Worshiped" an individual of a band; I "worship" the music. Which is why I continue to love Creed's, Alter Bridge's and Scott Stapp's Music the character of the individual's involved means nothing to me. Let’s just enjoy the music and move on. |
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that's ok, TRX...i understand why you posted this reply...:hugs: GB TRX... |
spin....swin i thought this was a no-spin zone lol! ;) my view of this is that the title of the thread seems to want to stir the pot a little. however "the stapp mammas" seem to be wearing rose-coloured glasses and refuse to consider that perhaps stapp is not the man they thought he was. again this is only my view of the situation so please don't jump down my throat.
the man is very talented and has such a big personality, stage presence and is a fantastic lyrcrist and frontman. however its hard to find people in the business to say a good word about the man which i think saids something. so in conclusion i'm sure both parties have committed wrongs and stapp was a MASSIVE reason why creed was so successful. saying that my opinion of him personally is certainly what it was 12 months ago which is too bad. |
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The guys said it was personal and musical differences. Stapp made himself look like the victim, which he was not. Mark and the guys were being professional about the causes of the break-up. Stapp was saying that Mark and the guys were "tired of being in a christian rock band" so they decided to instead drink and have sex with groupies. Yeah and Stapp is sitting at home all innocent, right? |
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Your not stupid TremontiRx, you knew you posted that article in the wrong forum, because if you had originally put it where it belonged, the very people you wanted to target wouldn't have seen it. It was posted at another bb, and got very few replies...so you brought it here, where you knew it would get the replies you were looking for. You got the very thing you wanted. You are as childish and petty as the person who gave this interview...but then again, I'm not a fan.... :D |
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the interviewee is childish and pettish why? because the interview was negatively biased against scott? :rolleyes: larry the cable guy man that guy is a riot! :D |
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I'm not stupid either handmedown.... :D I've read enough articles and interviews to know that negativity about Stapp reigns supreme. It's the "in" thing...always has been...and it's never mattered to me what other's opinions of him are, it won't change mine. What is childish and petty is the fact that throughout that entire interview, Phillips is saying...."I'm not saying....but". "I don't want to talk bad about Stapp....but". "I would use that term loosely" Blah, blah, blah. I guess for the members of Alter Bridge, any convo is good convo...no matter if it makes them look like asses or not. And in my opinion, that's exactly what it did. If on the otherhand, in your opinion you find it "eye opening"....more power to ya. |
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I find Philips to give a refreshing interview and his PR skills don't really seem to be that strong. What I mean by that is that with flip what you see is what you get or at least that is the appearance from the outside. Information has being revealed by the AB guys that would have never being talked about previously. If three of his former bandmates have said negative things about him (whilst holding back) then that to me speaks volumes. Stapp meanwhile is a very intelligent man and plays the PR game for sure. If telling the truth is looking like an arse then so be it. Brian is of the opinion that Stapp through his weight around in the band and did it so successfully that Marshall was given his marching orders over Stapp, although i'm sure there were issues such as substance abuse and a loose tongue that contributed to his depature. Flip didn't say he was a control freak but it was very difficult to acheive something within the band if Stapp disagreed. Its too bad because I have spent a lot of time defending Stapp on other boards as a man but I can't continue to do it honestly. That doesn't mean I don't enjoy Creed and won't love his solo work because to me is a muscian first and a person second. |
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This makes me laugh hard.. Professional? Where? When? I think you all should consider the fact that there are two sides in EVERYTHING.. now u wanna take the AB one? It's ok.. But don't bash on people who don't just because they support another artist.. That is just not right.. |
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This article really doesn't say anything new though. I'm just glad everyone's happy with where things are - means to an end kinda thing. The Alter Bridge boys seem really excited about starting out in a new band with a new CD, and Stapp seems to be really excited about his solo project. Why all the conflict? |
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sure the truth is in the middle somewhere and your point of view differs on what side of the centre you place yourself. however i think i've had enough of this and would rather simply enjoy the music.
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Amen...
Oh, but i'm not a christian!!!! |
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Stapp was going through alot of things with his health that he admitted to keeping it to himself. I beleive he was a victim as far as that is concerned. He was pushed to continue, even though is health was suffering. I see anything but professionalism as far as these interviews AB is giving, but that is my opinion. He never said the other guys wanted to have sex with groupies...he said they didn't want the Christian label and just wanted a rock and roll lifestyle, and even that could have been mis-quoted, who knows. Don't make it into something it wasn't. There is a big difference. |
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in the interests of consistency i must raise something. so stapp is misquoted but his ex-bandmates if they say anything negative show a lack of class? come on guys and gals enough of the halo complex and realise that both sides are not angels. they are merely people just like you and i, they just can play guitar or sing etc better than us. showing a lack of professionalism here is such a red herring. all of the AB guys have said all of the same things (save for myles obviously) and are being open and they show a lack of class? scott is more careful with his words and seemingly playing the PR game and so he has more class? they are not living a rock and roll lifestyle so that is a non-issue and shouldn't even be discussed. |
I said MAY have been mis-quote. It's possible AB was too, who knows. I never said anyone was perfect. And just because the members of AB agree, doesn't mean they are showing class. Flip could have just left it as they were having differences...they don't accept any fault in the break-up and it's not ONE person's fault. The pointing fingers is not necessary.
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How many fucking threads do we need like this? Why are we even talking about the breakup still? It's done, it's over, can we not move on? Tremo, Flip, Brian, and Myles have a great thing going. Leave them alone. And Scott is going to get his album off the ground as well. So why are we bitching at each other?
This article that was posted sounds like complete bullshit. I've read quotes from Flip before and he just sounds a little more sarcastic than usual here. The writer obviously had it out for Stapp. I think we all should take this with a grain of salt, really. Pointing fingers over something our beloved musicians have gotten over is really ridiculous. If you must blame someone for the breakup of Creed, blame Wind-Up. Even if it wasn't there fault, blame them anyway. Music labels are always screwing something up. :p |
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It wasn't WU's fault, and i won't say who i think the blame rests on becuase there would be no point. |
Let's sum it up here: Mark and the guys kick ass and were being held back musically by Stapp due to his pissiness and his mental conflics and some other things. Alter Bridge are way better than Creed ever was. Just listen to the album and you'll see. Even if they don't sell as much, that doesn't matter. As long as they please the fans with good music and not generic, same ol' bullshit (Weathered) then it's alright. Stapp is a loser with no musical talent and will go no where with his solo project.
I have yet to see "Relearn Love" jumping up in the charts. Scott Stapp sucks ass, but all the good luck to him. He'll need it. :D |
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Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn........ :D |
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I really like Alter bridge's debut album. But it just isn't as good as Creed was. |
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hahaha TOW always stirring the pot! :) musically AB is superior and there is no doubt whatsoever about that. Mark finally shows the world what he is capable of, Flip also does that and improves out of sight and Myles' vocals just add so much, he is easily one of the world's greatest vocalists. Creed had that little something whether it was the superior lyrics or Scott's charisma that Creed had over AB. I personally prefer AB but each to his own I guess. You do contradict yourself however when you say sales for AB mean nothing but then note Relearn Love's lack of chart success. :) |
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Not neccessarily because at least "Open Your Eyes" has reached number two on the mainstream rock charts, while I've yet to see "Relearn Love" anywhere on the charts. This has nothing to do with sales. But I was stating that it doesn't matter if Alter Bridge ever reaches the number of records sold as Creed did. They're stilll better than Creed and that matters most. I am stirring the pot, though with if Alter Bridge is better than Scott Stapp or not. They own him at talent and sales. Even with Stapp's flashy image, he still is nothing. He needed Mark and the guys more than Mark and the guys needed him. |
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