quote from eddie vedder on u.s election
 

a very contenious quote to say the least. i love PJ but this shows a lot of arrogance in my view. while i wouldn't have voted for bush to say the nation was "wrong" in their choice is very arrogant.

Vedder: I was particularly energized by the solidarity. It wouldn't have been the same without all you guys up there, and to be able to hold your hand and stand together, it was like, "Fuck it. I'll take the bullet. This is important." So Sleater-Kinney will be on tour before Pearl Jam is, and you'll be facing a country that failed to do its civic duty to educate itself and vote properly in this last election.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :cheers: i will drink to that one :D

man, you shoulda posted this in the "useless thoughts" thread or something.
eddie vedder is really full of shit. he's so full of himself, as are most other celebrities. they think that the buck stops at (with) them and that all of us commoners want to be just like them and should, therefore, possess the same extreme opinions as them. unfortunately for them, last time i checked, the US Protectorate of La-La Land doesn't have any votes in the elctoral college.
another thing these celebrities don't realize that it's possible that their extremely horrid villification of our president possibly drove a greater number of us nutjob, southern, gun-toting, homophobic, incestuous, Bible-waving nuts to the polls in support of the more neo-conservative candidate of the two. America's decision is America's decision. these are the rules for electing a chief executive that we've lived by for 200 years, so if you don't like our rules, get out. i, for one, would be more than happy to disenfranchise Hollywood lol.

lol true.....so its eddie vedder's fault so many red-necks came out and voted! ;) when i have read and heard what he has said he normally sounds very educated on the issues no matter if i agree with him or not. this time he just sounds very arrogant. he should have stuck with supporting ralph nader.......

I'm not surprised. Like RMadd already said, celebrities are so full of themselves, they think they can tell the regulars, the average joes, who to vote for. It's insulting that Vedder insulted those who voted for Bush. I'm not old enough to vote, but if I was, I would have cast my vote for Bush. I'm not ashamed to say that. Everyone who voted for Bush had a reason. Some did it on the basis of morals and religion; some did it on the basis of how he's lead(and I'm not saying he's a great leader, or anything. I was against the Iraq war from day 1). Not everyone who voted for Bush is a homophobic red-neck who only has a 8th grade education and is therefore deemed "stupid" by the public. The College educated, the really smart people of this country, voted for Bush. Vedder's comment, I'm sure, is a bit upsetting to those who gave their vote to Bush. I'd also imagine that it might alienate those Pearl Jam fans who voted for Bush. Bottom line is, Vedder(and all the other celebrities) need to shut their mouths and stay out of this country's elections. It's just a bad idea for them and causes them to lose some fans.

i remember hearing of a billboard that popped up in or near Hollywood afew months ago thanking the liberals that openly pushed for John Kerry and derided Bush... had pics of Michael Moore, Whoopi (I think), and some others.... i'll try & find links w/ pics.

http://www.humaneventsonline.com/article.php?id=6451

http://la.indymedia.org/news/2005/02/122927.php - evidently there are some people who think Bush is the next Hitler (in last pic)

http://sayanythingblog.com/2005/02/1...rd-vandalized/ - prolly the best pic i could find right quick of the vandalism, but the fucking google ad bar got in the way the first time i loaded it....

Yep,aint that the truth!

Agree
 

You got my vote, RMadd. I'm a huge PJ fan, but these guys like Vedder, Michael Moore, Sean Penn, Susan Saranwrap. They think their opinion is so important. What happened to the ones in Hollywood that supported their country like Jimmy Stewart, Audy Murphy. Being a star doesn't make one smart and apparently doesn't make one patriotic.

The only thing I'ld say here is that there is nothing patriotic following the government just cause they're the government. I think if you find fault then point it out. However thinking that you know better than "the uneducated masses" is very arrogant and only likely to push people towards the other side. Should have stayed away from flip-flop Kerry and stayed with his support of Ralph Nader.

If I am going to take political advise from a high school drop out, I'd rather get it from the mother of four working three jobs to support her family... not an untalented, overrated, overpaid, underqualified entertainer who no matter what he does wrong will still make millions of dollars.

untalented? get outta here........

i gotta admit, Eddie Vedder doesn't impress me that much either.... nothing but a Scott Stapp rip-off lol. but, seriously, their last few albums haven't been particularly noteworthy.

Yep
 

Correct! I like their early stuff better.

the last two have not been that great but everything up until and including yeild was very good! :) matt cameron's drumming was much better in soundgarden.

Well when I said untalented I didnt mean to single out Vedder, I was just refering to the whole movie/music stars that think they are holier than thou.

They think we care more about what they say than we actually do. They need a wake up call.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."

Other high school dropouts:
HG Wells - British author
Jim Clark - Self-made billionaire
Andrew Jackson - US President
Ray Charles - Musician
Patrick Henry - Patriot
Philip Emeagwali - Supercomputer scientist
Kjell Inge Rokke - Self-made billionaire
Walter Nash - New Zealand Prime Minister
David Lean - Director (one of the best)
Anton van Leeuwenhoek - World's first microbiologist
Alfred E. Smith - NY Governor
Jack Kent Cooke - Self-made billionaire
Horace Greeley - Co-founder of the Republican Party
Rod McKuen - Poet
Charles Dickens
Thomas Edison
Mark Twain
Andrew Carnegie

not to nit-pick, jango, but you omitted an important aspect of the whole first amendment deal. see, the first amendment was actually designed so that the states would be charged with legislating free speech, religion, & assembly. you neglected to mention the 14th Amendment, which makes it the federal gov't's responsibility.
additionally, would you care for me to list all great people of the past, say, 100 years, who graduated high school (and even college!), and compare that to a list of notable people (in a positive manner) who didn't make it through high school. i suspect that the former list would be longer than the latter. as is often pointed out here in the US, college grads end up making truckloads of money more over the rest of their lives.

No shit Sherlock. Mullet decided to point out the fact that Ed had dropped out and was consequently unworthy of making informed opinions. I was pointint out that Ed is in good company. Going to college does not guarantee success, just as not going to college does not guarantee failure.

You're trying to debate political ideology and history with a polisci major. Burden of responsibilty between branches of a federal system is entirely irrelevant to this conversation, so shut the hell up and let the big boys talk.

you're not much of a sleuth yourself, son
also, just because you've got a certain major, that doesn't make you a genius. people do still get Cs, Ds, and Fs.