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XALTERBRIDGEX 08-07-2009 02:13 PM

anyone else concerned about Stapp's vocals?
 
anyone else concered about Stapps vocal ability to make it through the end of the tour. I mean it was night 1 and he was struggling with "one last breath" for example. I think his voice is shot. James hetfield blew his voice on the black album, but is still going strong, any thoughts?

Creed24 08-07-2009 02:16 PM

Re: anyone else concerned about Stapp's vocals?
 
Don't forget they were recording the album for the last 2 months and have been rehearsing a bunch as well.

Dimitris 08-07-2009 02:27 PM

Re: anyone else concerned about Stapp's vocals?
 
i think he's voice in a good shape really

XALTERBRIDGEX 08-07-2009 02:44 PM

Re: anyone else concerned about Stapp's vocals?
 
Go back to old Creed videos on youtube and see how powerful his voice is in those vids. I had read he had problems his solo tour as well. Im not trying to be debbie downer. Im pumped to see New Creed, but my concern is will he be able to make it into September/October. It will be interesting to see how he sounds tonite on VH1..

BSC 08-07-2009 03:02 PM

Re: anyone else concerned about Stapp's vocals?
 
I thought One Last Breath was really good...

I'm sure he'll be fine, it was probably first night jitters.

Dark_Knight 08-07-2009 03:04 PM

Re: anyone else concerned about Stapp's vocals?
 
After listening to the whole show I'm definitely worried...I was sort of prepared for that though seeing as his voice has been in bad shape for a few years now. Also they're tuning the songs down a half-step now to give him a little help but even that didn't do much good which is depressing. I guess we'll just have to deal with it and hope that he gets better...

BSC 08-07-2009 03:16 PM

Re: anyone else concerned about Stapp's vocals?
 
I've just heard One and I thought he sang that really well...

I'm sure it's first night jitters... Scott puts all he can into his live peformances, i'm confident he'll deliver.

Alot of bands do tune the songs down a bit live, it's pretty common. I'm not that worried, if his voice isn't that great live then i'm sure on the album it'll be better!

Got My Back? 08-07-2009 03:20 PM

Re: anyone else concerned about Stapp's vocals?
 
I was there and thought he sounded great, but maybe I'm not the best one to go by, because I've never noticed him missing notes except for that one note on One Last Breath a few times, and I thought he sounded great on that last night.

I don't know, I never got the whole Scott Stapp can't sing thing. It was definitely a running theme through the crowd last night before the show. If I heard one more person say, "Scott Stapp can't sing like Myles Kennedy", I was gonna throw up. I love Mark's guitar playing, and the rhythm section is great, but what drew me to Creed was Scott's vocals. Alter Bridge just doesn't do it for me. I guess I like something I can sing along with. I can't sing with Myles. That may very well be what makes him great, but I guess I just like to sing along too much to enjoy AB.

Not all of us are born sopranos!

XALTERBRIDGEX 08-07-2009 03:33 PM

Re: anyone else concerned about Stapp's vocals?
 
Ya its good to hear someone that was there last night. I want to see tonite on Vh1 how it sounds, I hope I'm wrong! As far as Alter Bridge vs Creed thing goes, I was a die hard Creed fan but when they broke up Alter Bridge to me was a breath of fresh air. They stood out from anything else on the radio. Ya alot of us can't sing like myles but I can still sing along..

Tremontiriffs77 08-07-2009 04:16 PM

Re: anyone else concerned about Stapp's vocals?
 
Is anybody posting vh1 2nite?won't be home..be much appreciated..

Agent D 08-07-2009 05:53 PM

Re: anyone else concerned about Stapp's vocals?
 
I'm not really surprised that his voice isn't that great anymore. We all knew that already anyway.

creedm1981 08-08-2009 01:46 AM

Re: anyone else concerned about Stapp's vocals?
 
ya know we are judging stapp off the bat way too quick. its only been one day. Scott stapp is awesome and always will be. We wanted creed and now we got it lets be happy and support them all the way. elvis isnt young anymore.. he got fat and blew up but he was still the king... well stapp is still stappy

Chris98GT 08-08-2009 01:47 AM

Re: anyone else concerned about Stapp's vocals?
 
He sounds like a completely different person. I had no idea how bad it was.

creedm1981 08-08-2009 01:57 AM

Re: anyone else concerned about Stapp's vocals?
 
we all have our faults.. things were not proud of .. mistakes left unforgiven at times.. you know stapp has come a very long way. he not only talks the talk he is also walking the walk. I love the fact that all creed haters are going to get served a nice taste of real rock and roll...chris cornell, nickelback and daughtry and all the others are going to fall beneath creed now and bow down to the kings of rock music.

BSC 08-08-2009 04:06 AM

Re: anyone else concerned about Stapp's vocals?
 
Come on faith have in Creed!

I'm sure that if the guys didn't think Stapp's voice was good enough to go through this tour that they wouldn't have toured.

Alot of bands reunite and have different band members... They could have just booted Stapp out if they didn't think he was up to scratch.

The other band members must have faith in Stapp to be doing this.. So why don't we have some faith in him?

Chris98GT 08-08-2009 05:43 AM

Re: anyone else concerned about Stapp's vocals?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BSC
I'm sure that if the guys didn't think Stapp's voice was good enough to go through this tour that they wouldn't have toured.

Money talks.

Dark_Knight 08-08-2009 06:05 AM

Re: anyone else concerned about Stapp's vocals?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris98GT
Money talks.

:rolleyes:

Finaldecision 08-08-2009 06:26 AM

Re: anyone else concerned about Stapp's vocals?
 
The VH-1 video of Bullets was awesome! Stapp was not perfect at hitting every little note, but it was still OK and compared to some performances of the Weathered days (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaOeF5S2PTg) it was outstanding, also because he managed to hold the audience and put the right aggression into the "Look at me!" - part that this song is asking for.

The reason some things sound "flat" might as well be due to the fact they tuned the songs down. And the reason they tune it down is that they want to treat his voice with care, so he can manage to make it through the whole tour.
You also have to mind that he just recorded a new album and that the band was rehearsing a few days before, so he has already strained his voice in the last weeks.

I'm not saying that his vocals were absolutely perfect, there's still many things that could be improved and that might improve during the tour. But I think he found a good balance to preserve his voice on the one hand and make it a stirring perfomance on the other. And to find such a balance is not only important to make it through a tour, it's a sign of preffesionalism. Maybe the lessons with this vocal coach pay off now.

BSC 08-08-2009 11:18 AM

Re: anyone else concerned about Stapp's vocals?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dark_Knight
:rolleyes:


I don't think Creed would want to go back to the time where Scott was butchering songs, just to get some money.

XALTERBRIDGEX 08-08-2009 11:19 AM

Re: anyone else concerned about Stapp's vocals?
 
Ya i can kinda see now that his voice might be tired from making the record. In past havent they made the record and hit the road maybe a month or so after the record was released. I don't know but, Mark and Stapp looked like they were having fun ou there, not just for they money..

perpetualchange 08-12-2009 02:18 PM

Re: anyone else concerned about Stapp's vocals?
 
Him being "tired" from recording in the studio isn't an excuse for not being able to sing on key. In fact, I doubt anything he's done in the studio would be so rigorous that change his voice even a little bit.

It's disappointing. I was watching the woodstock performance from 99 a couple nights ago, and then comparing it to Live and Loud. These performances are by far the worst I've seen of him at any point, even the average on the Weathered tour.

XALTERBRIDGEX 08-12-2009 02:28 PM

Re: anyone else concerned about Stapp's vocals?
 
clearly he doesnt have the same vocal ability he did when he was 26, but he is what he is now..people are coming away from the show saying how bad ass it was..very few are talking about his vocals off key..I am prepared to have a beer in each hand all night and the band kicking my ass, Stapp vocals 100% or not..

Agent D 08-12-2009 02:37 PM

Re: anyone else concerned about Stapp's vocals?
 
I surely hope the people who are complaining about his voice weren't people who were completely into this reunion tour with no reservations at all. It seems silly that some people are only just discovering that Stapp's voice has changed a bit over the years.

perpetualchange 08-12-2009 03:08 PM

Re: anyone else concerned about Stapp's vocals?
 
I was into the reunion when I first heard of it happening. But after the interviews, and these performances, it seems like Stapp isn't really all that... different? I feel like we have the same self-important Stapp that sent Creed down the drain after Human Clay, only now he can't sing.

I hope I'm not getting people angry for saying this, it's just how I feel. If everyone disagrees and would rather not have me killing the mood, I'll stop.

Chase 08-12-2009 03:58 PM

Re: anyone else concerned about Stapp's vocals?
 
People still pay big money to listen to Bob Dylan sound like he is hacking up a lung. Everyone ages, some people at a quicker rate than others. Eddie Vedder sounds different than he did in 1991. Liam Gallagher sounds different than he did in 1994. I don't know why you guys expect Stapp to be different.

Get over it. He's not the first singer to have a change in his voice. I actually think, to the average Creed hater, his voice and image will come off as a lot less annoying than they were 10 years ago.

Agent D 08-12-2009 05:37 PM

Re: anyone else concerned about Stapp's vocals?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chase
I actually think, to the average Creed hater, his voice and image will come off as a lot less annoying than they were 10 years ago.


Hopefully. I hope the band as well as us fans are prepared for the huge backlash that will come as a result of this reunion.

Chris98GT 08-12-2009 07:52 PM

Re: anyone else concerned about Stapp's vocals?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by perpetualchange
I was into the reunion when I first heard of it happening. But after the interviews, and these performances, it seems like Stapp isn't really all that... different? I feel like we have the same self-important Stapp that sent Creed down the drain after Human Clay, only now he can't sing.

I totally agree. I want Alter Bridge back ASAP.

Dark_Knight 08-12-2009 08:10 PM

Re: anyone else concerned about Stapp's vocals?
 
You guys need to have a little more faith, give the guy a chance...trust me I'm concerned as much as any of you (probably more) but it's not that easy to sing night after night in amphitheaters and arenas, it takes a toll on any singers voice.

These videos give me hope that he can recover because they're not from that long ago...(Solo show in Delray & a clip from the AFE tour)

Bullets: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJcx9F5wXs4
(it's actually in the right key too (D)

Criminal: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm7IzEJgQac

He's pretty much spot on, I just think his voice is worn out from rehearsals, recording the new record & of course this tour but I do have hope for the guy that he can recover.

Tremontiriffs77 08-12-2009 08:12 PM

Re: anyone else concerned about Stapp's vocals?
 
you guys are so off base man...Yeah Alter Bridge rocks but their no Creed...Backlash?Oh you mean them selling millions of records compared to the half a millian Alter Bridge sold in 5 years...C'mon man the Myles love affair needs to stop..The reason Tremonti is doing this is because he wants to be in the biggest rock band on the planet again..period

XALTERBRIDGEX 08-12-2009 08:21 PM

Re: anyone else concerned about Stapp's vocals?
 
correction AB sold about 750,000 between 2 albums sold in the states, not sure about overseas. ya AB is not as successful but they dont have songs that play on pop stations like Creed.

Tremontiriffs77 08-12-2009 08:27 PM

Re: anyone else concerned about Stapp's vocals?
 
[quote=XALTERBRIDGEX]correction AB sold about 750,000 between 2 albums sold in the states, not sure about overseas. ya AB is not as successful but they dont have songs that play on pop stations like Creed.

Im not knocking them...I loved Alter Bridge..It just aggervates me that people have to play Myles vs Stapp...Stapp made some big mistakes...but in my opinion they are just a drop in the bucket compared to what other frontman in rock have done off and on stage..If you want to blame anyone try wind up for creating a fake persona of Goddy Too shoes for him to live up to...

Dark_Knight 08-12-2009 08:35 PM

Re: anyone else concerned about Stapp's vocals?
 
AB will get bigger mark my words. but I agree I'm sick of the Creed vs. AB crap, they're both amazing bands but totally different.

XALTERBRIDGEX 08-12-2009 08:38 PM

Re: anyone else concerned about Stapp's vocals?
 
YES! both bands are amazing..we get AB DVD, Full Circle, and ABIII, it doesnt get much better than that..

Dark_Knight 08-12-2009 08:41 PM

Re: anyone else concerned about Stapp's vocals?
 
^Don't forget Myles' solo project. we have A LOT to look forward to on both sides. Just think we get to hear "Overcome" next week. \m/

nflea7 08-12-2009 10:46 PM

Re: anyone else concerned about Stapp's vocals?
 
I think Tremontiriffs77 is dead on, I got the feeling when I met Tremonti on an AB tour that although musically its exactly what he wants to do, there is just nothing like playing a stadium or an arenas to 10 thousand + people. Or being as famous as the guitar player in Creed. There is a reason that the tour is only 3 months long and the AB DVD is going to be on sale. Next plans are to record AB3 and tour next summer with AB. Lots for fans to take in from both bands over the next year.

BSC 08-13-2009 03:30 AM

Re: anyone else concerned about Stapp's vocals?
 
I hate this whole Alter Bridge vs Creed thing. Is it impossible for some people to like two bands at the same time?

For anyone saying "Hahaha Stapp sucks! Come on Alter Bridge" BS, why don't you just listen to Alter Bridge?


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