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All I can say is that its a relief to finally have some factual knowledge of the events in that article. It is interesting that all our specuation about Scott had some basis in truth. On the whole, it is a really sad and alarming story of the demise of a truly great band. But for me, and hopefully for all Creed fans, this information will bring some closure to the troubled past and the breakup, and will now direct focus on the promise of the future for all the members of Creed. :jam:

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Amen!!! ;)

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Did you read the interview? it's pretty obvious he blames a few other people.

I'm not saying Creed would still be around... never did.

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So true! SO true!



Good! Be sure to give it to give it to the right people then! ;) I can see many Oscars coming your way!

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Yes, I read the interview twice, to make sure I am not missing something. Here's some quotes from it to back up what I said:


There he admits to making a lot of mistakes in the past. He isn't blaming someone else....he is saying that HE made the mistakes.


Right there he admits that he felt he was the reason why the band was hated. He felt guilty about it because not only did the hate hurt him, it also hurt the other members of Creed.


Maybe in that quote you feel he is blaming someone? Here's my interpretation of it: he is making sure that people know that yes, he did have a ton of health problems before, during and after the Weathered tour. These problems(the car accident, the vocal nodules and such) were documented. However, like Stapp said, apparently the management told the rest of the band(Flip, Tremo and Brett) that wasn't the case. Given how screwed up Stapp was at that point in his life, they probably chose to believe what management said and thus did not really care about the health problems. Not really their fault, because if I were in their shoes and had observed the heavy partying, I'd believe management as well. But, really, all Stapp is doing in this quote is affirming what he has said for years now: he had health problems during the Weathered tour, and instead of taking time off to heal, he kept going at it because he didn't want to let the rest of the band down.


That's probably another quote where you think he is blaming other people for his mistakes. Well, the way I interpret it is this: he is saying that Creed was ended by egos(management, the band, the label etc), people wanting to do their own thing(namely Mark wanting to shred and really showcase his ability as a guitarist) and poor decision-making(Stapp doing the Weathered tour despite the health problems). What he says about Mark never being happy seems to be the case. Look at what Mark has said since the break-up....look at what he said in this interview. It was obvious that he was not happy with the direction Creed was heading toward. He wanted to shred. He didn't want to be so hated by the music world. He wanted to do his own thing. That isn't Scott's fault and I don't think Scott is blaming his problems on Mark.

Unless I am completely missing something, I don't see how you think he is blaming other people(for his mistakes and problems) in this interview.

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I'm interested in the part where he says there's still phone calls to be made. That is a major step in recovery. With his past, I pray for him he can hold on to his faith. You know he knows what his faith is, and he fights it so hard sometimes. I hope this time, he can hold on. He needs prayer, and so does Jagger and the rest of his family.

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Thanks for posting this Sarah!!!

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Jerry Cantrell, though not naming Stapp directly, also said something similar when he toured with them in 2002. He mentioned how the Nickelback guys were great to tour with, friendly, always wanting to hang out. He said he never got as much as a hello from Creed.

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Zia, the bassist for Mayfield Four, is the one who Stapp asked to get a coke for him - according to Julia.

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Well, I can't see what makes you a Tremonti fan when you always bitch at him... And I think it would be wrong of Mark to diss Creed's music, yes. But he really didn't! I think Stapp did most of the Mark-didn't-like-Creed-statments himself. And did Mark say he didn't want to play Creed songs because he didn't like the music? It was HIS music Goddamnit! He said it was a complete nightmare to him, and what the hell do you know about it? Really...? He doesn't want to listen to Creed, because towards the end of Creed it was a negative experience for him. I can't recall him saying: "Nobody should listen to Creed". He didn't even diss Creed's music. He just said it was a nightmare, and I understand him. That Chicago show can't have been fun for him.

And hey, no one's even forceing you to listen to either Mark or AB.

Oh, and I agree a little bit with Marcos. Even though Stapp took responsibility for many things, he still did blame some other people for some things.

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Imagine going out on stage every night, and standing next to a guy who was more worried about his house and his wedding than whether you lived or died. Geez.

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We don't even know if that someone actually said that.

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You mean....we don't know if someone actually said that?...actually, I figure Stapp's telling the truth. If his bandmates knew that continuing to perform would make his health problems worse, they could have refused to perform and management wouldn't have had a leg to stand on. Its pretty apparent that's not the way they felt. They wanted to work....they have said as much in interviews. It also proves that they weren't as clueless to Stapp's predicament as they claimed to be. They just simply didn't care. That's what pulling in a million per concert will do to you.

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Stapp was a drug addict. Was that Mark's fault? Stapp's health was in danger because he was living DANGEROUSLY, and, as MOST of us have been saying all along, there was a LOT more than JUST prednisone that was responsible for his health and behavior. It's a funny thing, when you have mostly Jack Daniels, percocet, and zanax in your system, your health is eventually going to take a nosedive. It's not like he had Lou Gehrig's Disease or diabetes...Stapp's physical maladies were, for the most part, the direct result of his debacherous rock and roll lifestyle. Let's assume for a moment that what Stapp said about that remark was unequivocally true, and that it was Mark that said it, isn't it even a LITTLE understandable that Mark might be a little upset that the ENTIRE BAND could possibly grind to a halt because of some REALLY bad decisions that Stapp had made alone?

I'm curious, is ALL of Stapp's behavior and addictions going to be blamed on his bandmates, or has Stapp earned any of the blame himself?

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and, as for theory being presented involving Mark being all about the money, is that why he abandoned the multi-platinum selling Creed? Is that why he hired Brian Marshall (the band member he FIRED) as the bassist for Alter Bridge, even AFTER Brian SUED both Mark AND Stapp for compensation after his dismissal from Creed? Mark STILL hired him, thereby giving Brian the chance to do it again...when Mark could have literally hundreds of bassists vying for that job, he wanted Marshall...Brian, Mark, Flip, Brett, all still friends...the one that is out of the equation? Stapp, because that's how he wanted it...now, I'm sure that Stapp is naturally a solitary person, and, maybe, deep down, he wanted to be a part of that group, but, considering that everyone ELSE is still friends, it's pretty clear that Stapp could have been in that group if he had TRIED to be...