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stevewk1 09-11-2004 12:00 PM

Original CREED reunites within 3 years
 
Without taking anything away from Scott's solo effort or Alter Bridge, it might be clear in the place where blind men see, that the band will be reuniting. I base this on Stappie's total openness to the idea, and the fact that AB aint exactly lighting the world on fire.

When/if the second AB record either bombs or tanks, Mark & Flip will reach out to Scott, who already wants it again, and the band will reunite as:

-Scott Stapp
-Mark Tremonti
-Scott Phillips
-Brian Marshall (not Bret, based on Stapp's expressed openness to Brian)

Only then, will all once again be right with the world. Remember, you heard it here first (or maybe second or third).

-steve
:wow:

RMadd 09-11-2004 02:25 PM

yeah
no offense, but IMO you're full of shit. i don't think stapp & tremo will reunite creatively. here's why: stapp seems to like having stuff his way; mark wants to let loose and kick ass. who says AB is gonna tank? it's too bad you think that.

The Lithium 09-11-2004 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by stevewk1
I base this on Stappie's total openness to the idea

Dude, have you heard NOTHING of what Mark and the band have said? They don't wanna be in any other band than Alter Bridge, and they're all happier this way!! Even if Scott's doors is open, Mark's, Flip's and Brian's sure ain't!!

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Originally Posted by BearFan
no offense, but IMO you're full of shit.

Yeah, I agree!! You are full of shit!!

JulieCitySlicker 09-11-2004 04:15 PM

I doubt thats gonna happen :rolleyes:

Dogstar 09-11-2004 04:29 PM

One can never say never, but right now, a reunion looks highly unlikely. I think they have grown apart creatively and personally, and sometimes, that happens and it's just time to move on. I wasn't happy that Creed broke up, but I would rather have them do that than put out shitty, uninspired music. Let's be happy with what they did give us.

The Lithium 09-11-2004 04:39 PM

Well, since I think ODR is the best album ever written I'm alright with it!! :D

Shadow 09-11-2004 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by THE LITHIUM
They don't wanna be in any other band than Alter Bridge, and they're all happier this way!! Even if Scott's doors is open, Mark's, Flip's and Brian's sure ain't!!

Nothing is ever definite. If you go back and listen to old Creed interviews (of which I have plenty of), they always talked about being together for a very long time.

AB is still new. Their relationship with Myles is new. When a relationship is new, it's always roses and champagne. But, over time things change.

Mark has a different mentality about music. He wakes up playing his guitar and goes to bed playing. Scott has a son. He didn't want to do music 24/7 the way Mark does. Let's see what happens when Mark starts a family and Flip's daughter gets a little older. I bet touring the States in a mini-van won't be quite as much fun.

I *think* they will eventually reunite. They were too good together not to. But, I don't think you'll see Scott in any rush to be associated with JHMP anytime soon.

rabidgopher04 09-12-2004 01:58 AM

What exactly happened between them and JHMP? I must have missed it.

The Lithium 09-12-2004 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Shadow
Their relationship with Myles is new. When a relationship is new, it's always roses and champagne. But, over time things change.

Yeah, and that was what happened to Creed!! And Mark have said he thinks Myles is the best rock singer he've ever heard. Which means he likes Myles voice better than Stapp's, and Micheal Tremonti said "Myles blows Stapp out of the water". Guess it's just better off this way!!

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Originally Posted by Shadow
I bet touring the States in a mini-van won't be quite as much fun.

No, problably not, that's why they're doing it now.

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Originally Posted by Shadow
They were too good together not to

Well, if I have to choose I'd say Alter Bridge is better than Creed. But I like to say they're both my no: #1!!

Shagrath 09-12-2004 11:29 AM

they have just split-up
its not the time to talk about it now
anything can happen
but i wouldnt say no to a reunion

Lucy 09-12-2004 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Dogstar
One can never say never, but right now, a reunion looks highly unlikely. I think they have grown apart creatively and personally, and sometimes, that happens and it's just time to move on. I wasn't happy that Creed broke up, but I would rather have them do that than put out shitty, uninspired music. Let's be happy with what they did give us.

Amen.. ;)

Torn Signs 09-12-2004 12:12 PM

What to say, but that in the interview w/ KATT Stapp said it was a weight of his shoulders to not have to relay his work with other band members. AB, yes, as you said, The Lithium, AB wants to remain together, at the current moment, not worrying about Stapp. The chance at them getting back together is not that high as of late because of those things, but as Shadow and Shagrath said, it is possible way down the road.

stevewk1 09-12-2004 12:32 PM

I didnt make it as clear as I could have. I'm basing my prediction of a reunion in 3 years primarily on economics. The handwriting is on the wall, as it has been with so many bands in the past. When Alter Bridge fails to light the world on fire the way CREED did, all will see that the way to regain the spolight and thereby refill the bank accounts, is to reform CREED.

And of course, it doesnt hurt that everybody knows CREED had a lot more left to do. At this point, all will be forgiven of everyone; we will see the fourth CREED record and a supporting tour. We simply need to be patient.

-steve (your friendly seer)

Pronunciation: sēr
Noun1.seer - a person with unusual powers of foresight.

Dogstar 09-12-2004 01:16 PM

Hmm, economics aside, I think if it does happen, it might take a little longer than three years, but you never know.

johellion 09-12-2004 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevewk1
I didnt make it as clear as I could have. I'm basing my prediction of a reunion in 3 years primarily on economics. The handwriting is on the wall, as it has been with so many bands in the past. When Alter Bridge fails to light the world on fire the way CREED did, all will see that the way to regain the spolight and thereby refill the bank accounts, is to reform CREED.

And of course, it doesnt hurt that everybody knows CREED had a lot more left to do. At this point, all will be forgiven of everyone; we will see the fourth CREED record and a supporting tour. We simply need to be patient.

-steve (your friendly seer)

Pronunciation: sēr
Noun1.seer - a person with unusual powers of foresight.



Steve...
First of all....I would not say 3 yrs...maybe 10....and second economics has nothing to do with it because this band is not about THE MONEY...they are about the music...thats is why they are doing small arenas, and using mini vans...they like it this way. This band is not looking to light the world on fire the way CREED did.... They have been there and done that!!! This first album is doing very well.....and as they tour the word will spread.....Creed was a band for 2 yrs. before they were signed and it took awhile...they played at small venues and clubs.. :D

OneOmerta 09-12-2004 02:59 PM

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and second economics has nothing to do with it because this band is not about THE MONEY...they are about the music...thats is why they are doing small arenas, and using mini vans...


I have to slightly disagree with this...ALL bands want to make money so that they can afford to keep up their current "lifestyle"..ie...living in mansions with indoor pools and fountains and driving hummers and ferrari's. They are doing small arena's at this point in time because they aren't established in the rock world as Alter Bridge. They would never sell out a large arena at this point in time...it's too early and the majority of people don't even know who Alter Bridge is quite yet. I would imagine if this small tour is successful and album sales are successful...then they will be right back to the very large arena scene...to make more money.

Ann Allusion 09-12-2004 03:33 PM

Eventually, AB will again be playing arenas just as Creed did...in order to accomodate the fans they pick up along the way from touring...saying they will continue to do "small" venues is neive (sp).

Saying "never" to reuniting...would be akin to saying Marshall would never be playing with the remainder of Creed in another incarnation again...big surprise...look at 'em now.

Anything is possible...time is irrelevent in this reguard, as it will happen when it is supposed to happen...but realize that a "reunited Creed" would show the growth that has been attained during their solo time...not only creatively...but on a personal level too.

This is hinging most of all on forgiveness and understanding of all parties involved...and realizing where the PRIORITIES, which can change for some and stay the same for others, really are...then being able to mix it all together so it works, and that isn't easy without keeping the lines of communication open..all of this is learned from past indescretions and mistakes that are hopefully not repeated.

there is too much "energy" in these 4 souls to write them off as "over".

The Lithium 09-12-2004 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by stevewk1
When Alter Bridge fails to light the world on fire the way CREED did, all will see that the way to regain the spolight and thereby refill the bank accounts, is to reform CREED.

What the? You officially are 100% full of shit!! Or maybe you just don't know how to handle the breakup, but Flip and Mark have said: "If it doesn't work out this time with AB - we're just gonna play in small demo bands where we live". Get the picture? NO MORE CREED!!!

Oh, one more thing. AB will FAIL to light the world on fire? Since AB is better than Creed - that doesn't make any sence to me!!

RMadd 09-12-2004 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by THE LITHIUM
What the? You officially are 100% full of shit!! Or maybe you just don't know how to handle the breakup, but Flip and Mark have said: "If it doesn't work out this time with AB - we're just gonna play in small demo bands where we live". Get the picture? NO MORE CREED!!!

Oh, one more thing. AB will FAIL to light the world on fire? Since AB is better than Creed - that doesn't make any seance to me!!

:clap:

Dogstar 09-12-2004 06:09 PM

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This is hinging most of all on forgiveness and understanding of all parties involved...and realizing where the PRIORITIES, which can change for some and stay the same for others, really are...then being able to mix it all together so it works, and that isn't easy without keeping the lines of communication open..all of this is learned from past indescretions and mistakes that are hopefully not repeated.
Well said, Ann.

Sheila63 09-12-2004 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Ann Allusion
Eventually, AB will again be playing arenas just as Creed did...in order to accomodate the fans they pick up along the way from touring...saying they will continue to do "small" venues is neive (sp).

Saying "never" to reuniting...would be akin to saying Marshall would never be playing with the remainder of Creed in another incarnation again...big surprise...look at 'em now.

Anything is possible...time is irrelevent in this reguard, as it will happen when it is supposed to happen...but realize that a "reunited Creed" would show the growth that has been attained during their solo time...not only creatively...but on a personal level too.

This is hinging most of all on forgiveness and understanding of all parties involved...and realizing where the PRIORITIES, which can change for some and stay the same for others, really are...then being able to mix it all together so it works, and that isn't easy without keeping the lines of communication open..all of this is learned from past indescretions and mistakes that are hopefully not repeated.

there is too much "energy" in these 4 souls to write them off as "over".


:clap: :clap: Very well said. No one knows what the future holds so we'll have to see how everything works out.

Bridge of Clay 09-12-2004 06:34 PM

yeah, on the near future I don't see Creed reunion (2-3 years, considering AB already have the 2nd album pratically written).

But Robyn is right: in the beginning it's always roses and champagne... I agree to most of you, except Seb...

I just would like Wind-Up released all the b-sides songs, like Nothing, even if Stapp didn't finish its vocals... heck, I can take anything, even Flip singing Nothing... it doesn't matter...

Creed is still my fav band. I love Alter Bridge to death, but I don't connect to its songs as much as to Creed's.

The Lithium 09-24-2004 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Bridge of Clay
I agree to most of you, except Seb...

Well, they have said that if AB fails they will just play in small demo bands where they live, I don't think Creed ever will reunite... But if they would I think it would be great, but I don't know how it would turn out...

Jooji_2 09-24-2004 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Bridge of Clay
Creed is still my fav band. I love Alter Bridge to death, but I don't connect to its songs as much as to Creed's.


:wtf:

I think I may cry.

Disclaimer....not trying to start an argument....just wowed by the fact that Bridge of Clay actually made that statement.

WhatsUrCreed 09-24-2004 03:14 PM

Believe what you want ..."playing for just the music" is great and all but you cant be a bum on the street and just "play for music." No one will want to listen to you if you are some poor sap playing at small venues and thinking that your music is important. Music makes money. Entertainment makes money...AB will soon play much larger venues in order to make more money and support their large (if they ever get a really large) fan base. Sorry to say but AB is riding on Creed's glory right now whether they like it or not. You cant think of AB and not think of Creed no matter how hard you try...Creed was just too great to forget. Even people that dont listen to Creed refer to AB as "the members of that one band Creed." You will see a Creed reunion as soon as AB's flame burns out. (Which will be between 5-7 years i assume) Wind Up will make sure to milk AB and Stapp for all the money they can before they support a reunion album...WHy do you think a Creed best hits album is not out yet?? WHy release it now if Wind Up can make enough money off of just AB's album?? When sales go down...you will see Creed slowly making its return...WInd Up has many options now and they want to milk albums for all the money they can before introducing a new album. As it was already said...it really is all about economics and money..Dont FORGET...MUSIC IS ALSO A BUSINESS! :crest:

luvscott4ever 09-24-2004 03:16 PM

[quote=THE LITHIUM]
Since AB is better than Creed QUOTE]

Sorry, don't get me wrong, I think Mark and Flip are incredible at what they do, but AB IS NOT BETTER THAN CREED!!! And never will be...Sorry, just my opinion!! But it's not like I'm not going to go see AB next Tuesday night!! yayayay!!

The Lithium 09-24-2004 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jooji_2
Bridge of Clay actually made that statement.

Marcos is just like me a diehard Creed and Alter Bridge fan. Just that he thinks Creed is a bit better and I think AB is a bit better.

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Originally Posted by luvscott4ever
Sorry, don't get me wrong, I think Mark and Flip are incredible at what they do, but AB IS NOT BETTER THAN CREED!!! And never will be...Sorry, just my opinion!! But it's not like I'm not going to go see AB next Tuesday night!! yayayay!!

No, no, no, I respect that, as long as you respect my opinion!! Creed is awesome, they've done a whole lot of things to me! And so have AB!! I saw and met them in London last friday!! Such a nice bunsh of guys, and the show was the best show I've ever seen!! Wish the same for you and your show! (Never saw Creed live)

kariyanine 09-24-2004 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by THE LITHIUM
the show was the best show I've ever seen!! Wish the same for you and your show! (Never saw Creed live)


Lith, I mean no offense to you (and I know we've had our differences on another thread) but I think that some of how you are looked at recently comes straight from your above statement.

You've never seen Creed live. I was just like you almost 10 years ago when I first heard Creed. Man they were the best thing I had ever heard (OK I may be exagerating here a bit but...) I mean c'mon awsome guitar work, driving bass lines and meaningful, pseudo spiritual lyrics. They were the best thing to happen to my music world since Guns N' Roses and Metallica. And then I saw them live.... and man it was an experience. An experience I don't even know how to begin to explain it was just that meaningful. Scott up on stage was just amazing. he was able to hold the crowd in the palm of his hand. Weather it was while telling a story about a song, leading the crowd or even just singing one of the songs. All eyes were on him and Mark and the pure emotion they were playing off of. I've been to alot of concerts and I've seen some of whom I consider the best (Billy Joel, Elton John, Metallica, Buckcherry, 3 Doors Down, Matchbox Twenty, Bon Jovi, Guns N Roses, Fleetwood Mac, Lynnard Skynnard, Finger Eleven, Sevendust, 12 Stones, Evanescence, Seether, Barenaked Ladies, AC/DC, Def Leppard, Chicago.. I could continue to go on) but Scott was the best I've ever seen. Maybe not the best singer but he had the best stage presence. And I think alot of long time Creed fans still think this way and that is why it is hard for them to get on teh Alter bridge bandwagon as strongly as you. And you being so hard behind Alter Bridge sometimes comes off as overly agressive. Just thought I would let you know.

I ahven't seen Alter Bridge yet. I get the chance in 2 weeks and I hope I think they are a great live as you say.

The Lithium 09-24-2004 05:52 PM

I know, but I'm from Sweden, I never got the chance to see Creed. They toured in Europe 1999 - that was it... And they didn't tour for long. I'm so happy Alter Bridge will, and I know Stapp is awesome on stage, I've seen a whole lot of live videos!! But believe me when I say Myles is just as awesome, he's such a good actor on stage, and really know how to rock a crazy crowd CRAZIER!!!

DekWannaBFlea 09-25-2004 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by WhatsUrCreed
Believe what you want ..."playing for just the music" is great and all but you cant be a bum on the street and just "play for music." No one will want to listen to you if you are some poor sap playing at small venues and thinking that your music is important. Music makes money. Entertainment makes money...AB will soon play much larger venues in order to make more money and support their large (if they ever get a really large) fan base. Sorry to say but AB is riding on Creed's glory right now whether they like it or not. You cant think of AB and not think of Creed no matter how hard you try...Creed was just too great to forget. Even people that dont listen to Creed refer to AB as "the members of that one band Creed." You will see a Creed reunion as soon as AB's flame burns out. (Which will be between 5-7 years i assume) Wind Up will make sure to milk AB and Stapp for all the money they can before they support a reunion album...WHy do you think a Creed best hits album is not out yet?? WHy release it now if Wind Up can make enough money off of just AB's album?? When sales go down...you will see Creed slowly making its return...WInd Up has many options now and they want to milk albums for all the money they can before introducing a new album. As it was already said...it really is all about economics and money..Dont FORGET...MUSIC IS ALSO A BUSINESS! :crest:


Thats why it is important that they begin to release singles that don't sound anything like creed. THats why i think they should start to release singles that sound nothing like creed, like Find the real, One day remains or Metalingus. People are going to call Alter bridge the former creed members for a while because thats what they can relate them too. YOu are also assuming that Alter bridge won't be able to pick up new fans, fans creed could never get. Let me tell you that a lot of noncreed fans are liking Alterbridge. Don't believe me? Ill give you some quotation from people from a musicans forum on www.mxtabs.net. You will be suprised.....

"It's already better than anything Creed ever did"

"i bought this album cause i was curious and open your eyes is mediocre, but the rest of the album, especially metalingus totally blew me away buy it"

"Yeah Alter Bridge is a good band, they are better then creed, and i dont think they sound anything like creed."

"They're pretty good. A big improvement from creed anyway."

"Creed sucked but i really enjoy alter bridge."

So even creed haters are digging alter bridge...


And your whole comment about money is just stupid. How rich are the Alter bridge guys? Pretty dam rich, so rich that they don't have to be in a band in order to live their rich lifestyles.(not that that is bad) This is why i believe them that they will never reunite if AB goes under, because they don't have to!

It doesn't matter though, because their is little chance of them going under in 5-7 years.

The Lithium 09-25-2004 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by DekWannaBFlea
And your whole comment about money is just stupid. How rich are the Alter bridge guys? Pretty dam rich, so rich that they don't have to be in a band in order to live their rich lifestyles!

Yeah, right on!!
1) The guys says it's all about the fun
2) I've met them and seen them on stage - believe me, it's not about tme money
3) You don't work your ass off 24/7 in 6 months if you want the money. You do it for the love of your work and the fans!!

I'mRational 09-26-2004 10:46 PM

Here's hoping for no reunion. I want the real musicians in AB, not the held back musicians in Creed.

StillACreedFan 09-26-2004 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by I'mRational
Here's hoping for no reunion. I want the real musicians in AB, not the held back musicians in Creed.

This crap about them being held back in Creed is total BS.

Trees of Wisdom 09-26-2004 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bridge of Clay
yeah, on the near future I don't see Creed reunion (2-3 years, considering AB already have the 2nd album pratically written).

But Robyn is right: in the beginning it's always roses and champagne... I agree to most of you, except Seb...

I just would like Wind-Up released all the b-sides songs, like Nothing, even if Stapp didn't finish its vocals... heck, I can take anything, even Flip singing Nothing... it doesn't matter...

Creed is still my fav band. I love Alter Bridge to death, but I don't connect to its songs as much as to Creed's.


Alter Bridge does have meaningful songs and I listen to "Burn It Down" a lot when I'm in a down mood.

Creed had meaning, in the My Own Prison days.

DekWannaBFlea 09-27-2004 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by StillACreedFan
This crap about them being held back in Creed is total BS.




Are you kiding me? Compare the musicanship between AB and creed.......Do you hear any fast solos in Weathered (besides Stand here with me)? Do you hear any complicate dum stuff in creed? Thats one reason i believe that AB had musical differences with Scott, they wanted to do some crazy shit and scott didn't want em to.

fluttergirl 09-27-2004 01:42 AM

Completely agree with you there, DekWannaBFlea.

aussiecreeder 09-27-2004 01:55 AM

Okay Sir.Handmedown would like to make a few points! ;)

-Creed were a multi-platnium band including having a diamond record so finances have nothing to do with Creed possibly coming back in the future. Neither of the guys have to get back to anything like Creed's financial success in order to fund their lifestyles.

-I have no idea what the future holds but I can't see a reunion in the next 4-5 years but perhaps in 10 years time it will happen. Mark and Scott were a fantastic songwriting team and the band brought so much the table. However the AB guys seem happier and Scott seems happy doing his own thing as well.
-The muscianship in AB is certainly better and that is something Mark wanted to do and its great to see.

StillACreedFan 09-27-2004 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Trees of Wisdom
Alter Bridge does have meaningful songs and I listen to "Burn It Down" a lot when I'm in a down mood.

Creed had meaning, in the My Own Prison days.

All 3 albums had meaning, there's no debating that.

The Lithium 09-27-2004 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by I'mRational
Here's hoping for no reunion. I want the real musicians in AB, not the held back musicians in Creed.

Thank you, finally someone who understands me!!

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Originally Posted by StillACreedFan
This crap about them being held back in Creed is total BS.

Just listen to the Creed albums and to ODR - and you will clearly hear big difference!!

RMadd 09-27-2004 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DekWannaBFlea
Are you kiding me? Compare the musicanship between AB and creed.......Do you hear any fast solos in Weathered (besides Stand here with me)? Do you hear any complicate dum stuff in creed? Thats one reason i believe that AB had musical differences with Scott, they wanted to do some crazy shit and scott didn't want em to.

sounds 'bout right to me... to me, the breakup was, more or less, over creative control of the band. the way i see it, stapp wanted to do one thing, flip and tremo wanted a different thing. and i think AB is the perfect outlet for that different thing, since it is, more or less, mark's band.


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