Well then leave if you don't like it here.

Ohhhh, thank goodness for that, then! :eek: Thanks for clearing that up, Frankie. :)

Well, I tried to watch the segment with Scott's comment about "God's band" with the captions turned on and unfortunately, it only captured the voices of the people talking over him. So I just sat and listened to it over and over and over and over ....

I am really upset to report that I am pretty sure he is saying, "I used to be in a God band." I kept hoping he was saying, "I'm used to being in a God band." ... since that is so close to what I orginially thought. As much as I wanted to hear something different, I still think he said it as I thought at first.

If someone hears something else pretty distinctively, please let me know because I REALLY want to be wrong! :(

Could it be that he was talking about him being in a Goth(ic) band ???

I hate to be a killjoy - I want CREED as much as the rest of you - but I think the signs are all there and no matter what he said (though it would be really nice to know just for the sake of knowing!) we can pretty much assume Creed is on hiatus status. I hate the thought of it but we have to be realistic. I think we have enough info and I do think the rumors are true. JMO

I don't think so. Plus ... it wasn't the "God" part that I was really trying to figure out as much as the "I used to" part.

I'm just trying to avoid finding confirmation that Creed is no more. Just my denial that I need to deal with.

I know, you're right. :( I just wish you weren't.

Because......
 

I have just as much right to voice my thoughts here as you do. No one has to agree with me, but they can at least allow me to voice my opinions. Are people only allowed here if they agree with the rest of you???????

I knew you were *sigh* but I wish you weren't! Guess I just wanna "Close my eyes... and begin to pray"



Here is another one in HEAVILY denial ! :hugs:

I don't think anyone was implying you don't have a right to your opinions. Of course we will not all always agree. If that were the case, this would be a very boring discusion board.

But if you look back at your post that started this, you might see that you came off as sounding like you were the one coming down on some of us because you didn't agree with what we were saying ... pretty much implying that it was ridiculous to analyze his every word and move. And while that may be true, it was not done maliciously or to make fun. We were not passing judgement ... just making observations ... or maybe just looking for positive signs of Scott's current state of mind since there has been so much speculation about him.

Yes ... you were clearly responding to someone else's post, but at the same time, you were somewhat insulting to a few others here.

Believe me - I sure wish I wasn't either. I keep dreaming that they are going to make an announcement anyday that it was all a huge misunderstanding. I would like to think that if the rumors were all dead wrong - that the band would be doing some kind of interview announcement or something denying the break up. Especially by now. Again, JMO, but it has gone beyond being "fishy" in my mind - it is pretty clear.

Well ... let's just hope that things will change over time. There is nothing to say that they won't get back together ... even if that is their intent right now.

Yep we can always hope -
and there is always the new VH1 show - Band Reunited - if they do break up we can always hope they get hunted by VH1! :(

If you notice in my initial post I was positive, and mentioned the fact that he might be clueless as to the rules because he had never played "texas hold-em poker" before, that I was just glad to see him and that he won some money for his charity. I didn't discuss the sweat on his upper lip, state that I thought he should be embarrassed, or insinuate that he got drunk in the loser's lounge. How can that be considered looking for positive signs of his current state of mind?????? I haven't seen the show yet....but basically, I gave the guy a break...something that so very few people are willing to do anymore. Everyone jumps to speculate about his emotional state.....has anybody ever thought that having every freaking thing about you and your life negatively picked apart, from the way you cut your hair, to your clothes, who you might or might not be dating, your weight, your health, what medications you might be taking, just basically thinking they need to know EVERYTHING about you down to how many times a day you take a dump....is enough to really, really, really bother someone who is a private person, just trying to spend some offtime with his family and have a bit of fun? Ever thought that after a while you get damn tired of being "analyzed"???? Quite frankly, I don't see how he could ever be comfortable dealing with it. And in my opinion he gets an unfair share of it.

hey Jen... easy! I wasn't saying those things at you... Just random thougts, making some fun of our Stapp...

Jooji, thank you! It means a lot to me! ;)

Just seems to me like you are very "edgey" lately
:dunno:

I agree, Jooji. His every move is scrutinized; how can anyone be expected to be "normal" under those conditions? And besides, what is considered normal anyway? And how "normal" are we? Are we all perfect? Do we all have perfect clothes, hair, etc.? Do we always act responsibly in EVERY situation? Or, are we also human, making mistakes, letting our tempers get the best of us sometimes? Like I've stated before, I don't see Scott through rose-colored glasses, but if everyone would put themselves in his shoes for a moment: picture yourself going through all he's gone through, especially in 2002, while trying to tour, and in front of everyone, trying to keep his life (and his son's) and his career together......I think I've made my point......can't everyone just stop analyzing him so much and let the guy live his life? Yes, I like to know all I can about him, but I also try to remember that he's a person, with feelings. Sorry, it's just really starting to get to me, the way everyone picks apart every little thing he does and says, and how he looks.

well said kim now thats what i like to here Peace be whica now :D

You sure the word was "band" not hand? :confused:

I used to be in God's hand????

I'm just going to go with that, Julbright. That would fit in the subject more anyway! Plus, I don't really think Scott would say that on national television if they haven't told us official yet. That just wouldn't make sense, and if they were having problems back then, I don't think they would be so sure about what was happening, or we'd already know official. That's just my opinion, I could be wrong, but I'm going to go with you Julbright. I'm also going to have to catch the show later.
HOOOORAY FOR THE 1ST DAY OF TV !!!!! REAL TV, THAT HAS BRAVO! AND I'LL GET TO WATCH, AND RECORD A RERUN AFTER ALL! :D

Yes, I know that, and I didn't even say anything about having less rights, or less opinions than you do. Geesh. :wtf:

And anyone is allowed here, as you can clearly see, not everyone agrees.

Your post said "Sad thing is the comments here pale in comparison to other sites." Anyone would have to be dumb not to see that you are comparing Creed Feed to other message boards. If you don't like it here, then take a hike, you don't need to state it.

Anyway, sorry, I'm not here to pick a fight with you.

...or maybe land???? I used to be in God's LAND ??? j/k :o

Ooops, that was supposed to be me! Mom, probably half of your posts are mine by accident! Oh well, you can get over it can't you?? Really, THANKS!
Okay everyone, sorry for the confusion, but the post I just quoted was supposed to be me, Saxon, Creed_Defaultgirl, ME!!! Sorry once again, I always forget to look and see who's s/n is up at the top! Oh well. :homer: DOH!

:dunno: As someone mentioned you couldn't really hear it clearly because there were others speaking.... :( But it's still worrying, oh well I guess. I'm not going to let it get to me too much, with all of the other things going on. :scared:

You are absolutely right! But the things you're mentioning here are NOT the things that I was referring to as being positive signs of his current state. Some of us just dote on his every move because we like him so much.
I agree 100%.

"a God band" is the only part I'm sure he said. It's the only part that everyone else stopped talking and you can hear it pretty clearly. It's the begining of the sentence that is hard to hear.

I also thought at first that he wouldn't have said it if it wasn't released officially, but he said it so casually and in the background. It wasn't like he was deliberately saying it to the camera or anything.

The context around it was "lucky in love, unlucky at cards". Actually, I'm not even really sure why he made a "God" point at all. I mean ... I realize that Carrie Fisher was saying that "God knows" she and Tom G. were lucky in love (and therefore, unlucky at cards), but anyway you look at it ... it just doesn't make sense.

Anyway, I hope anyone (except me) is right.

Actually.....
 

You people are sweetiepies compared to the other creed site...I'm sure you all know which one I'm talking about. I actually got to watch the poker game last night....a wonderful friend taped it and sent it to me....all I saw was a guy playing some cards, trying to have a good time, kidding with his fellow players, trying to have a sense of humor, and being a good sport. I didn't see him do anything that all of his fellow players weren't doing also. Maybe alot of other people were watching something else???????? The point I'm trying to make: Imagine you were him....and everytime you appeared in public, for days afterwards all you heard was negative criticism. What kind of outlook on life would that give you? I'd probably be pissed at the world....but that's just me. Just asking that people here give some thought to how what they post here is....yes.....sometimes hurtful. Any maybe if they can't find something positive to say.....not to go out of their way to find something negative....I doubt it accomplishes anything good.

Exactly :D

Well I don't want to be argumentative but maybe we could look at it a different way:

Scott is human. He is not nor will he ever be perfect. Therefore, it is reasonable that there will be some things he doesn't do well - some choices he makes that aren't the best. And I am sorry to open a can of worms, but he screwed me in Chicago and it was by his own choosing, so he basically opened himself up by his own choosing.

Now before everyone jumps my shit for saying that, I would like you to keep reading

Think about this - isn't the best compliment in the whole entire world the one that says " I know you have all these faults and you make mistakes like the rest of us, but I still respect and adore you?" At least in this thread, that is what I hear people saying. Celebrity Poker was not his best night - it wasn't horrible and it was so so so so good to see him. So we poke a little fun. I know it sucks to live in the limelight but he chose that life with the good and the bad. We don't love him anyless and that would make me feel incredible - if I were him and I read things said like in this thread I would be like these people see my imperfections and love me anyway - how cool is that!?

I don't think it makes us any better of a fan to ignore his shortcomings or to be blinded to his errors - we don't do anyone any favors by letting them slide. And if I saw my best friend on a show, interview or something like that and I thought they were behaving a little out of character - I would say the same things. It isn't judgemental - at least not on my part - it is concern. He is different and I just hope it isn't because he is in unbearable pain. I wouldn't want that for him and I worry.

JMO :D

:dunno: so what did he say? can you read his lips? (I didn't watch, so I don't even know if he appears at the point you're saying...)

Well said, Julbright. :clap: :clap:

And also 100% true, we do see his imperfections, and we DO still love him. He is only human, and he is defenitly not going to be an angel his whole life. He has made mistakes before where I have been shocked and thought, "Holy shit, did he actually do that? I can't believe it!" But, I have WAY WAY to much respect for Scott to just turn my back because of one thing that he did and I didn't like it. No-one is perfect. Including Scott. I just love the guy too much to disaprove of him.

The first thing that would jump out at me would be that people who claim to love me were having a good time making fun of me. If I had a friend....and I was concerned about them....the last thing I would do is choose to point out every fault...even if I tempered it with the words...."but I love ya anyway". He chose to make music his life...he didn't choose the incredible amount of scrutiny he has to put up with. I watched that poker game last nite, and I'm sorry....I didn't see what people here and other places claim to have seen. So, I think we are just gonna have to agree to disagree here. I don't believe in the philosophy that people who achieve fame and celebrity don't have a right to a certain amount of privacy. I choose to continue to look for the good and I'm not gonna let loose with the negativity unless its truly called for...and so far I haven't seen anything on that tape that has changed my mind. :D

You stand here with me JJ.

Charmin

Hey 2-ply........
 

Love that song....I still wish they had released it as a single. :D

Once again, A2S, I agree with all of what you said! :)