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whitebird 12-13-2003 04:40 PM

Loss Of Peace
 
Today I have lost much of my spirit. Someone that I know and love was beaten and taken to the hospital last night. I have posted on Souldancer's Post For Peace, but at this moment I cannot feel peace within the world. Hope has been replaced by sadness, and happiness replaced by fear.

I can't post anymore at this time, I'm crying for my loved one, myself and the world.

SCOTTSMYMAN 12-13-2003 05:10 PM

whitebird I am soo sorry about your loved one. As you have been there soo many times for the rest of us , let us extend our arms out to you and support you in this time of despair,. As you have all told us in the best your pain will recede and life will get better! You have always offered us kind words so, please do not lose hope! Know that as I post this I say a prayer of support for your loved one and prayer for guidance for you! {{{{{whitebird}}}}}} We love you and though right now it is hard to feel peace and happiness you will someday again! We are here for you! :hugs: :hugs: :hugs:

hayley 12-13-2003 05:28 PM

I know what you are feeling right now, whitebird. I'm sorry to hear that news, and I hope your loved one makes progress and get's well very very soon. :hugs:

creedsister 12-13-2003 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by whitebird
Today I have lost much of my spirit. Someone that I know and love was beaten and taken to the hospital last night. I have posted on Souldancer's Post For Peace, but at this moment I cannot feel peace within the world. Hope has been replaced by sadness, and happiness replaced by fear.

I can't post anymore at this time, I'm crying for my loved one, myself and the world.

I really hate to here that with all my heart you seem like such a kindred soul,,I will talk to the father for you,,and if you can no longer find peace,,my advice is Look for it were you left it,,and fear only is fear when you fear it,,,may peace find you again!

Sheila63 12-13-2003 07:06 PM

whitebird, I'm so sorry to hear this news. I wish your loved one a speedy recovery. I can only imagine the range of emotions you must be feeling right now. Kris is right, please do not lose your hope. We're here to support you in any way that we can. You and your loved one will be in my thoughts and prayers. :hugs: :hugs: {{{{whitebird}}}}

marlsy 12-13-2003 07:24 PM

I'm so sorry whitebird, may god take you and your loved one in his arms and heal the body and soul, remember, we are here for you.

whitebird 12-13-2003 07:28 PM

Thank you all for your kind words and support, it means so very much to me.

My eyes have always reflected my spirit, and today when I look in the mirror, I can see that the spark has faded. I know that this will pass, and I will regain what has been damaged, but when I am one to ask for peace in the world, and it touches my own life, I somehow feel betrayed.

My loved one will be alright physically, for which I am very thankful, but I worry that the violence will linger in their spirit. Memory will of this will not go away with time.

Dogstar 12-13-2003 07:36 PM

Whitebird, I'm so sorry your loved one had to endure that. You have my deepest sympathies and wishes for your loved one's speedy recovery and prayers for more peace. Let yourself feel the anger get past it, it will happen. You are too gentle a spirit for anything else...:hugs:

creedsister 12-13-2003 07:40 PM

whitebird i know that fadded spark well,,as far as your freind,,all wounds can be healed by power of christ,but sometimes it takes more than a lot a prayer that soul of your friend that may be bruised has gotta want to let go og it for its self than it can be free of its demons so i will pray that my lord reaches that poor soul and sets it free,,peace be with you

TeriB19 12-13-2003 07:46 PM

I pray for you and for your loved one, whitebird. They say things happen for a reason but in cases like this I cannot fathom a reason why. It just boggles my mind. Prayers and hugs for you and yours to be stong.

GoodGodGirl23 12-13-2003 09:27 PM

You have my prayers and support too Whitebird....

JulieCitySlicker 12-13-2003 09:52 PM

Whitebird!

I am so sorry to hear about what happened to your friend :( I know excatly what you are feeling, I had the same feelings after hearing about all the bad things that go on in the world now. So much tragedy and sadness :( I just try to think about everything good that happens, it kinda helps block out all of the bad :) Plus coming to the Creed boards helps to! Coming here is that break from reality that we all need once in a while ;)

JenRN 12-13-2003 11:56 PM

Oh my goodness!!! I am so sorry to hear this. I know that it must really be hard to keep "positive thoughts" in such a time of confusion and anger. Please know that we are here for you and care about you. At times like that you wonder what makes people do the things they do. You and your friend will be in my prayers.

whitebird 12-14-2003 12:37 PM

Thank you again to everyone for your kind words. I do feel better today, and I know that your support helped.

When this violence happened, there were strangers who helped my loved one, and for their kindness I am very thankful. I hope that I may meet them and thank them in person.

The kindness of strangers is a very special thing, because they ask nothing for what they have done, and help to make this world a better place.

Peace.

whitebird 12-18-2003 09:28 PM

It has been a rough week for my family, and loved one.

I have however never felt anger for what has happened. Perhaps people would consider this unusual, but I can't find it in my heart to hate. The young people that have been involved in this, have been lead in a direction that has hurt many, including their own families. I have felt sadness, dismay, and fear. We are working to solve this situation, and are seeking the best route for each of the young people involved. Please help me to give open honest love and support, to help the situation.

Peace (And I Really, Really Mean It!!!!!!)

Dogstar 12-18-2003 09:32 PM

Whitebird, you got it. You are an amazing person. I have to confess that anger would be among the emotions I would be feeling under such circumstances. We need more people like you!

Sheila63 12-18-2003 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by whitebird
It has been a rough week for my family, and loved one.

I have however never felt anger for what has happened. Perhaps people would consider this unusual, but I can't find it in my heart to hate. The young people that have been involved in this, have been lead in a direction that has hurt many, including their own families. I have felt sadness, dismay, and fear. We are working to solve this situation, and are seeking the best route for each of the young people involved. Please help me to give open honest love and support, to help the situation.

Peace (And I Really, Really Mean It!!!!!!)



I agree with Dogstar. You're a remarkable person, whitebird. I hope the young people that did this to your loved one get the help they need. I wish you all of the best in dealing with this situation.

Peace to you as well!!!

whitebird 12-18-2003 09:50 PM

Hi Dogstar, thank you!!! I have learned so very much over the years, hate being a very negative emotion to hold within my heart.

If I can make a difference in this world, I truly need to try. For myself, my family and the community, which now extends to each of you through the internet, I am honestly trying to make a difference. Please help me!

whitebird 12-18-2003 10:13 PM

Hi Sheila63!

I don't feel special. Sometimes I feel that I have gone thru more learning experiences than 10 other people, and I ask why.

But if what I have learned, can be used to help someone else, than I can rationalize my purpose in this world. Right now, I am trying really, really hard, and I'm not sure what the outcome will be.

JenRN 12-18-2003 11:58 PM

Whitebird you are special.....Your strong faith and kind words amaze me, you are so unique. I am glad to have you on here :)

marlsy 12-19-2003 09:56 AM

I agree with Jen Whitebird, you are so special, I can tell that by your beautiful words you always have for other people. You truly are a unique and a special soul!!

Sheila63 12-19-2003 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by whitebird

I don't feel special. Sometimes I feel that I have gone thru more learning experiences than 10 other people, and I ask why.

But if what I have learned, can be used to help someone else, than I can rationalize my purpose in this world. Right now, I am trying really, really hard, and I'm not sure what the outcome will be.



There have been times in my life where I've had my share of learning experiences as well. Although times like that are difficult, I have discovered that it's during those times that I grow the most and learn more about myself and life as a whole. But you're right, there are times when you say, "Enough already!" and you don't want to learn anything new for awhile. You and your loved one will continue to be in my thoughts and prayers. Remember that we're here for you and we care about you.

whitebird 12-19-2003 10:10 PM

Hi Sheila63, yes I'm at that "Enough Already" stage. I would like a break for the holidays.

This is a point for the kids involved to decide which path they are going to take. They can treat it as a huge learning experience and grow, or they can continue on the path of anger, violence and self destruction. I just pray that no one else gets hurt by them.

Each of us make choices in life, it sounds like you are a person that has made many strides in your spiritual growth. And your right it doesn't come easily.

Thank you, to you and everyone else here that has given me love and support. It means so very much to me.

SCOTTSMYMAN 12-20-2003 08:11 AM

whitebird I hope all is well wtih your loved one! I was told once that God gives it to the people he thinks are stronger enough to handle such situations! Believe me has dealt me quite a hand as of late and I too am in the "Enough Already" stage! But as Sheila said it has been a growing experience for me! It has made me a stronger person and has shown me that no matter what life gives you, if you choose to you can get through it! You can either sit around and cry about! Or you can get up and say I will get through another day! Luckily, Steve is doing well but there are still issues we have but I got through another day! I'm glad you feel peace again especially with the holiday season coming! :hugs: to you! Sending more prayers your way!

Sheila63 12-20-2003 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by whitebird
Each of us make choices in life, it sounds like you are a person that has made many strides in your spiritual growth. And your right it doesn't come easily.

Thank you, to you and everyone else here that has given me love and support. It means so very much to me.


You're welcome, whitebird.:hugs: Thank you for your kind words. My spirituality and faith have helped see me through many situations in life. It's something I'm very grateful to have and I hope it continues to grow.

whitebird 12-20-2003 08:40 PM

I'm not going to cry anymore!!! Perhaps I can however tell you some of things that we have experienced. Premeditated assault, alliances, betrayal of friendships, theft, and threats.

Sadly it has reminded my of the reality shows that are on TV right now. Anything for money and power. The person that is the most devious and cruel, and can manipulate other people, doing whatever it takes, wins. There seem to be no values in some of the people involved. Betrayal and cruelty is a game to be played, no matter who gets hurt or used to achieve the desired goal.

When I was in school studying history, we learned about the Roman Coliseum. We learned about the horrors that occured there for entertainment. People pitted against animals to the death. People pitted against each other to the death, or the thumbs up, or thumbs down of the croud, deciding the fate of the gladiators. We could never understand how this could have happened in history. Cruelty for entertainment, was a shocking concept.

Now I see these shows entering our homes on the TV's, depicting situations and personalities, that have been hand picked to give the most shock value. They are called "Reality Shows". I never considered them to be a part of my "Reality", but now I have sadly been shown, that these warped values and personality traits exist in people that have touched our personal lives. As an adult, I have considered that these shows would have no effect on me, as my judgement and values are established. I truly worry about the children who may watch by our sides. Seeing the people who are considered the "winners" as cruel, lying and manipulitive. Traits accepted, and encouraged on these shows, to play the game well.

Well, reality really showed itself in an ugly way in our lives, and I won't ever accept those shows as entertainment again. How far will they continue to go, and are we not now the spectators in the Coliseum?

I know that many of us watch these shows, and I am not judging anyone. I am simply saying that perhaps we should stop and consider the effect, and loss of sensitivity our children may experience, watching week after week.

It's OK if you don't agree with my words. Just stop and think for a moment, it's all I ask.

I pray that nothing like this ever happens to any of you, or your loved ones.

I have had a huge reality check in my life.

JenRN 12-20-2003 08:48 PM

Whitebird..... you are saying eveything I feel as well about those shows. I hate "reality" shows, you are so right they are terrible and taint people's brains with hate and greed. I don't watch any of them for that reason. I also hate soap operas.... talk about trash! :rolleyes: I am so sorry that you are going trough times like this, it ALWAYS happens to the good ones like you. I wish we could go out and have a great conversation together over a good meal. I am so glad to have you here, you are so wise. Hang in there things must get better, this I tell myself as well.

JulieCitySlicker 12-20-2003 09:04 PM

I don't like those shows either ;)

Whitebird,
I would also agree with everyone else that you are truely an amazing person! The world needs more people like you :hugs: :hugs: :hugs: It would really cut the negativity out of the world, thats for sure ;) Its an honor having you here and I feel privileged knowing you!

whitebird 12-20-2003 09:40 PM

OK, I just sent a reply to both Jen and Julie. When I received it on my AOL, I sent the reply through AOL. It doesn't show up on here, and I thought it would.

Did either or you receive your reply? Or did I do something wrong? I have never sent it that way before.

whitebird 12-20-2003 10:17 PM

Steve kindly let me know that I had made a mistake in trying to send my replies through AOL, I thought it might work.

To JenRN- Thanks Jen, I know things will get better, and there is never a pleasant time to go through these kinds of situations.

It also seems like Christmas time for several of us on the board, may not be quite as we would have expected. What I think is so very special, is that each of us has supported each other.

If you are ever in Minnesota, I would love to have lunch with you!

Thanks again, you have my love.

whitebird 12-20-2003 10:19 PM

Thank you Julie, you are so very dear.

I have considered myself lucky to have found all of you, considering how extensive the internet is.

Perhaps there are no coincidences, and fate has played a lovely role in our friendships.

JenRN 12-20-2003 10:23 PM

I feel the same way. I truly believe it was fate. I can't express enough how I feel about you all. I sometimes sit in awe of how lucky I have been to find you all. For this very reason I will ALWAYS be grateful to Creed and Steve :angel:

JulieCitySlicker 12-20-2003 10:26 PM

Your welcome Whitebird!

HUGS!

I'm glad I've gotten to know you to Jen :D You are a very wonderful and beautiful person!

HUGS!

whitebird 12-20-2003 11:41 PM

I just realized that my status listed is "A Melody". How wonderfully appropriate. I chose this name after a beautiful song that I danced to when I was young. It is the only time that I have truly flown free.

Sheila63 12-21-2003 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JenRN
I feel the same way. I truly believe it was fate. I can't express enough how I feel about you all. I sometimes sit in awe of how lucky I have been to find you all. For this very reason I will ALWAYS be grateful to Creed and Steve :angel:


So do I. Over the last two years, I've experienced some moments that make me believe there is no such thing as coincidence. I'm so happy that I found this bb last December. All of you have been so great and I'm very thankful to have you in my life. A big THANK YOU to Creed and Steve for making it all possible. :D

Dogstar 12-21-2003 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by JenRN
I feel the same way. I truly believe it was fate. I can't express enough how I feel about you all. I sometimes sit in awe of how lucky I have been to find you all. For this very reason I will ALWAYS be grateful to Creed and Steve :angel:



Well said!

whitebird 12-22-2003 07:46 PM

Several us us have mentioned that we think that there seems to be a wonderful twist of fate that has been involved in our lives, at different times. I have in the past posted a couple of mine. I would love to hear other stories, that you have lived.

I would like to change this original sad post into something positive. Will you contribute?

Sheila63 12-24-2003 04:10 PM

I like to share a story that happened to me this past spring. Some of you may remember this so forgive me for repeating it. One of my best friends had a miscarriage when she was 5 months pregnant this past April. They had a service for the baby which I attended. It was very sad and I remember starting to cry when the priest referred to their baby who was a little girl as an "angel in heaven". I know up until ths point it's a sad story but there's a wonderful twist of fate to the story too. As I was driving home from the service, I had the radio on instead of one of my cds and I heard the following songs in this order - One Last Breath, Angel by Aerosmith, Angel by Sarah MacClaughlin (sp?) and Don't Want To Miss a Thing by Aerosmith. The significance of the last song is my friend and I both love that song and whenever one of us hears it, we think of the other. One or two songs could have been a coicidence but not 4!!! To me, it was a sign and a great comfort.

Dogstar 12-24-2003 09:43 PM

Sheila, what an awesome story!!! Wow, thanks for sharing that.

GoodGodGirl23 12-26-2003 12:01 AM

:)


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