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Stappishot 05-15-2006 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Robin101
Scott's problem is that he pissed off a lot of people during his Creed days.

His actions not only alienated him from his bandmates but also Creed fans. Take into consideration how many people already hate the guy and you can understand why his album hasn't shifted many copies and his tours haven't been that successful - who is there left to support him and give his album a chance?

By opening for INXS it allows people who won't normally think about buying his album the chance to hear his material.


That's if INXS fans like Stapp, and will give him a chance. I'm hoping they will, cause he needs this.

eusebioCBR 05-15-2006 10:46 PM

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Stapp/Creed music is VERY different from INXS.:bigeyes:

Robin101 05-16-2006 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by eusebioCBR
Stapp/Creed music is VERY different from INXS.:bigeyes:


I think that's the whole idea.

When Stapp released his album he didn't know what the response was going to be. He had every right to believe that, with Weathered being a monster hit, the album could go Platinum and he could still be playing to arenas.

Unfortunately, this was not going to happen due to the reasons given in my previous post. Stapp has now tested the water and realized that he has to go back to square one and build his career again. The only way he can do this is to branch out to a different crowd and also show the 'closet' Creed fans he's not a waste of space. There's still a huge fan base out there for him IF he can get things right.

To open for INXS is both interesting and brave - but what has he got to lose?

eusebioCBR 05-16-2006 10:47 PM

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^I don't see much happening, but if your right I owe you a Coke:D

inside_us_all04 05-19-2006 06:45 AM

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I just hope they come to Colorado... Id defnitly go!

HuMaN~ClAy 05-19-2006 08:12 AM

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well i dunno but i can't even force feed his cd down my friends throats when they're in my car. they all just hate him, for what reason i have no idea. they took to alter bridge pretty good, better than they did to creed. i don't see stapp recovering from his bad reputation any time soon, and that's really too bad because he really loves what he does, i've never seen anyone on stage with as much passion as him before.

maybe this is just how it'll be from now on. he'll release cd's that won't do much besides ship gold... it won't be the same as it was 5 years ago for him, but i hope he keeps makin music because i know i'll keep buying it, pretty much no matter what... unless it's like a christmas album or somethin' :P... and i still might buy that.

Dogstar 05-19-2006 10:40 AM

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I don't think it's as much his reputation as it is the quality of the music. The album, imho, just wasn't very good.

Robin101 05-19-2006 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Dogstar
I don't think it's as much his reputation as it is the quality of the music. The album, imho, just wasn't very good.


Could you say the same about One Day Remains considering it hasn't sold much better than The Great Divide? The Great Divide could end up selling more than One Day Remains but that doesn't make it a better album.

The fact is Stapp pissed off a lot of people during his time with Creed - much of it brought on by himself, some of it manufactured due to their unparalleled success. Unfortunately, some of the people he angered were Creed fans. Those who, with no real reason, already despised the guy now have ammunition with his 'solo screw-ups' - Casino Cinema, the sex tape, the arrest etc. Certain radio stations won't even play his music.

During Stapp's recent Detroit show, where he played My Sacrifice, Let Me Go, Surround Me, Sublime, The Great Divide and Broken acoustic, he said that INXS actually contacted HIM. He was a fan of them growing up.

BTW, anybody who thinks his voice is 'shot' should listen to the show and then have a nice slice of humble pie.

Dogstar 05-19-2006 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Robin101
Could you say the same about One Day Remains considering it hasn't sold much better than The Great Divide? The Great Divide could end up selling more than One Day Remains but that doesn't make it a better album.

I'm not actually talking about sales, but touring. AB didn't have to cancel their overseas tours. AB packed a lot of clubs when they went out. From what I've heard, Scott's tour didn't exactly pack them in. Now, granted, we don't know the reasons Scott's tour overseas was canned, but I'm guessing the label wasn't really happy with the ticket sales and didn't want to put up the money because they wouldn't get it back.

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The fact is Stapp pissed off a lot of people during his time with Creed - much of it brought on by himself, some of it manufactured due to their unparalleled success. Unfortunately, some of the people he angered were Creed fans. Those who, with no real reason, already despised the guy now have ammunition with his 'solo screw-ups' - Casino Cinema, the sex tape, the arrest etc. Certain radio stations won't even play his music.
Certain radio stations not playing his music probably aren't getting the payola to do so. Like it or not, payola is alive and well. Sales initially weren't that good. Wind Up likely stopped pushing the album once it realized it wasn't going anywhere, and that includes probably cutting off payola. Recently, Sam Goody's closed up shop near me and they were having a massive sale. I went in just before it closed when almost all of the inventory was gone. No lie, there had to be 30 Scott Stapp solo CDs on the racks. People wouldn't even buy them at a ridiculously low price.

crest tattoo 05-19-2006 02:12 PM

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Teri, silly me, what's payola mean?

Dogstar 05-19-2006 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by crest tattoo
Teri, silly me, what's payola mean?

Hehe, I'm Kerri, but you're close ;)

Payola is/was a system where labels/promoters paid DJs money to get their songs played and played often. It was a big scandal in the late '50s, but it's still going on today, but now it's the program directors who supposedly get paid because the DJs don't control what's played at all. There used to be more options back in the day, but corporate ownership and an emphasis on supposed demographic studies/polls have pretty much taken choice away from the DJs.

crest tattoo 05-19-2006 04:11 PM

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I know that Kerri. I don't know why I thought that! Silly, silly me.!

Dogstar 05-19-2006 05:07 PM

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Hehe, no harm, no foul ;)


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