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Justify 03-03-2006 08:37 AM

Mark's singing
 
I was just listening to the acoustic version of MOP. In this version you can hear Marks voice very good on the chorus. Marks voice is awesome. I wonder why he didn't want to be the lead singer as well as the guitarist of his new group. You know as well as I do if he came out with a solo album it would sell a ton of records.

uncertaindrumer 03-03-2006 10:17 AM

Re: Mark's singing
 
No. Mark cannot be a lead singer. He had pretty decent back-up vocals, that doesn't make him a good singer. He knows it. We all know it. That's why he got the best singer in the business to sing for him.

Justify 03-03-2006 10:20 AM

Re: Mark's singing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by uncertaindrumer
No. Mark cannot be a lead singer. He had pretty decent back-up vocals, that doesn't make him a good singer. He knows it. We all know it. That's why he got the best singer in the business to sing for him.


When have you heard him sing anything other than backup? How do you know he cannot sing? Before Creed was actually going to breakup wasn't he considering a solo album as a side project? Wasn't he going to sing on that one? Also, Myles is great but I don't know if he is the best singer in the business (IMO)

RoffeDH 03-03-2006 10:34 AM

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Name ONE other singer that isn't already taken that's better then him... One! Plus, I've heard him sing other then backup, I have a live pice on my computer where he sings a Metalica song that I at the moment can't remember the name to... And it's decent, but not okey... It's ruff... But I belive he's taking vocal lessons, and francly that's good...

eusebioCBR 03-03-2006 10:37 AM

Re: Mark's singing
 
Mark talked about this in an interview and he said, " I just didn't have the chops". I wish I could remember wich interview but there were just so many prior to the Alter Bridge release.

RoffeDH 03-03-2006 10:40 AM

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Yeah... So... He isn't a good singer... But he's a hell of a good guitar player! ;)

GregS 03-03-2006 10:41 AM

Re: Mark's singing
 
Mark would be okay singing but hes better with Myles.

RoffeDH 03-03-2006 10:45 AM

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Way better... And if you work alone, you tend to go in cirkcles... So it's better to work in pair of group...

facelessmike 03-03-2006 11:35 AM

Re: Mark's singing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by eusebioCBR
Mark talked about this in an interview and he said, " I just didn't have the chops". I wish I could remember wich interview but there were just so many prior to the Alter Bridge release.


Yeah, he has said that he's not a very good singer. I remember that interview. He might have a decent voice, but he cant really belt it out.

facelessmike 03-03-2006 11:37 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RoffeDH
Yeah... So... He isn't a good singer... But he's a hell of a good guitar player! ;)


Yeah, he does make up for it!! :D

Ana4Stapp 03-03-2006 12:05 PM

Re: Mark's singing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Justify
I was just listening to the acoustic version of MOP. In this version you can hear Marks voice very good on the chorus. Marks voice is awesome. I wonder why he didn't want to be the lead singer as well as the guitarist of his new group. You know as well as I do if he came out with a solo album it would sell a ton of records.



NO!!!!!!!!! I want Myles singing (and writing the lyrics as well) !!!! ;)

cariocawlad 03-03-2006 12:54 PM

Re: Mark's singing
 
He could do a duet in a one song for the next album...It would be amazing!

Peace.

Bridge of Clay 03-03-2006 01:26 PM

Re: Mark's singing
 
Justify,

the solo project was to have featured guitarists soloing with him: Carlos Santana, Steve Vai, Michael Angelo and Bill Peck were to be invited, but it never worked out coz they didn't have the time, specially after they decided to form a new band.

Creed7352 03-03-2006 01:50 PM

Re: Mark's singing
 
marcos, i believe he justify was talking about downshifter, not that "supergroup collaboration" you've mentioned.

and i have mark singing part of "enter sandman" and he's not bad, but there are times where his voice just doesn't cut it...mark knows that, and that's the reason he said he didn't want to sing for alter bridge.

Justify 03-03-2006 02:23 PM

Re: Mark's singing
 
My post was only based off of his live performance of MOP so I wasn't really saying he would be better than Myles. I really would just like to hear him sing some of his songs. Hey Creed7352, I'd like to get a copy of that "enter sandman" you have.

altered 03-03-2006 03:39 PM

Re: Mark's singing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ana4Stapp
NO!!!!!!!!! I want Myles singing (and writing the lyrics as well) !!!! ;)

Cool! Because thats what your going to get!:) :)

GregS 03-03-2006 07:28 PM

Re: Mark's singing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Creed7352
marcos, i believe he justify was talking about downshifter, not that "supergroup collaboration" you've mentioned.

and i have mark singing part of "enter sandman" and he's not bad, but there are times where his voice just doesn't cut it...mark knows that, and that's the reason he said he didn't want to sing for alter bridge.


Ya i used 2 have that Enter Sandman aswell.

Agent D 03-03-2006 08:04 PM

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I gotta ask, why are so many people down on Mark's lyrics?

titan9 03-03-2006 08:18 PM

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I guess some of us are just really, really picky when it comes to lyrics(Uncertain and I, in particular) and just think that Mark's lyrics are a bit, well, generic. I'm not saying he's incapable of writing good lyrics, I'm just saying that I don't think he's that great of a lyricist(but he has written some really good lyrics in the past), which is why I'd prefer Myles to do the bulk of the lyrics on the next album.

Ana4Stapp 03-03-2006 08:24 PM

Re: Mark's singing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by titan9
I guess some of us are just really, really picky when it comes to lyrics(Uncertain and I, in particular) and just think that Mark's lyrics are a bit, well, generic. I'm not saying he's incapable of writing good lyrics, I'm just saying that I don't think he's that great of a lyricist(but he has written some really good lyrics in the past), which is why I'd prefer Myles to do the bulk of the lyrics on the next album.


Me too! ;)

TeriB19 03-03-2006 08:25 PM

Re: Mark's singing
 
When it comes to being a lead singer, Mark is an excellent guitarist!!! I like him just fine where he is.

Agent D 03-03-2006 09:46 PM

Re: Mark's singing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by titan9
I guess some of us are just really, really picky when it comes to lyrics(Uncertain and I, in particular) and just think that Mark's lyrics are a bit, well, generic. I'm not saying he's incapable of writing good lyrics, I'm just saying that I don't think he's that great of a lyricist(but he has written some really good lyrics in the past), which is why I'd prefer Myles to do the bulk of the lyrics on the next album.


I'm not familiar with Myles's lyrics so maybe I just don't know the difference. But I really love the lyrics on One Day Remains. Maybe I'm easily pleased.

GregS 03-03-2006 09:49 PM

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ye i think the lyrics on one day remains are great.

Ana4Stapp 03-03-2006 09:54 PM

Re: Mark's singing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent D
I'm not familiar with Myles's lyrics so maybe I just don't know the difference. But I really love the lyrics on One Day Remains. Maybe I'm easily pleased.


Honestly you should try to listen to Mayfield Four songs --the lyrics ... are amazing.. ;)

titan9 03-03-2006 10:07 PM

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^Exactly, Ana. I own both MF4 albums and I think they are both great lyrically, vocally and maybe even musically(Myles really IS a good guitarist). The lyrics aren't quite as good as the lyrics from the first two Creed CDs, but, they're still pretty awesome and a whole lot better than the ODR lyrics(imo).

Agent D 03-04-2006 02:38 PM

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I'll have to give the M4 albums a look then.

Creed7352 03-04-2006 03:06 PM

Re: Mark's singing
 
well mark wrote the lyrics for ODR to be more generic...he's said that in interviews in the beginning. he wanted to write lyrics that everyone could relate to in some way or another.

gregs, you don't have this enter sandman i have unless you got it from the link i put up on abb.net a few days ago. you probably had/have that video of it from italy...mine is from 4/15/05 mcallen, texas.

uncertaindrumer 03-04-2006 05:11 PM

Re: Mark's singing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by titan9
^Exactly, Ana. I own both MF4 albums and I think they are both great lyrically, vocally and maybe even musically(Myles really IS a good guitarist). The lyrics aren't quite as good as the lyrics from the first two Creed CDs, but, they're still pretty awesome and a whole lot better than the ODR lyrics(imo).


Picky? You like the second creed album and you call yourself PICKY?! Shame on you. ;)

To Myles: please write. Please please please.

Chase 03-04-2006 05:58 PM

Re: Mark's singing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by uncertaindrumer
No. Mark cannot be a lead singer. He had pretty decent back-up vocals, that doesn't make him a good singer. He knows it. We all know it. That's why he got the best singer in the business to sing for him.


Wow... Chris Cornell is the lead singer for Alter Bridge... this is news to me.

RoffeDH 03-04-2006 09:49 PM

Re: Mark's singing
 
Well, Cornell is alsow the best, since he's lost some of his vocalrange he can't be considered THE best... But Myles gott his range, Cornell and Myles are a tight match... Plus... Myles was the best avaleble. And he's a hell of a nice person!

uncertaindrumer 03-05-2006 11:58 AM

Re: Mark's singing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chase
Wow... Chris Cornell is the lead singer for Alter Bridge... this is news to me.


Well... okay Cornell is REALLY REALLY good and I think if you go back a few years he was the best. But he is older than Myles and Myles has a better voice at the moment. It is REALLY close though... Chris puts much more passion into his singing, also. But speaking technically, I think Myles has the edge. I do actually like Chris Cornell more, though.

RoffeDH 03-05-2006 02:05 PM

Re: Mark's singing
 
Cornell has a great voice and I like them both, but for different resons...

Ana4Stapp 03-05-2006 02:21 PM

Re: Mark's singing
 
I love them both...but I like Chris Cornell more. He sings with more 'passion'. ;)

GregS 03-05-2006 03:58 PM

Re: Mark's singing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Creed7352
well mark wrote the lyrics for ODR to be more generic...he's said that in interviews in the beginning. he wanted to write lyrics that everyone could relate to in some way or another.

gregs, you don't have this enter sandman i have unless you got it from the link i put up on abb.net a few days ago. you probably had/have that video of it from italy...mine is from 4/15/05 mcallen, texas.


Ah rite..yeah i have the one from italy lol.

Robin101 03-06-2006 11:40 AM

Re: Mark's singing
 
Yeah...I'm a fan of CC's, too. Myles - technically the best in the biz. I think Myles will sing with more passion when he writes some of the material for the new AB album - lyrics he can relate to.

While we're on this kinda subject...

Here's a link to a PBF album review for Weathered. Two comments to take note of:

http://www.passionbreedsfollowers.co.../cougar2.shtml

1. (para 6) And there's no denying he's (Stapp) been blessed with rock's best voice since Soundgarden's Chris Cornell.

2. (para 11) Unlike Cornell, Stapp developed the early ability to keep the vocal histrionics to a minimum.

If you had a choice of the three, who would you choose to be your lead vocalist - Kennedy, Cornell or Stapp?

GregS 03-06-2006 12:56 PM

Re: Mark's singing
 
Myles obviously.

RoffeDH 03-06-2006 02:20 PM

Re: Mark's singing
 
Who... Myles... Or, Cornell, as said before it's a close call... But I think Myles... Stapp's in the bottom on my list actually...

Agent D 03-06-2006 02:47 PM

Re: Mark's singing
 
Hmm...I'd have to pick Myles, but Chris is virtually the same for me. And Stapp is behind them, although I still enjoy his voice.

uncertaindrumer 03-06-2006 04:46 PM

Re: Mark's singing
 
Wow, between Myles, Chris and Scott, I'd take Chris first, Myles second, and Ashlee Simpson third.





















Of course, that is negating age. If I had to pick one for the next ten years I'd probably go Myles first since Chris seems to be tailing off a bit.

Robin101 03-07-2006 08:21 AM

Re: Mark's singing
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by uncertaindrumer
Wow, between Myles, Chris and Scott, I'd take Chris first, Myles second, and Ashlee Simpson third.


Ah..you shut up Uncertain!!:mad1: :D


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